Do I sound like one? Good. Actually I was raised Lutheran. Now Atheist. I got all of this from the web. I do have issues with them because they're so cultish. I hate cults and brainwashing of any kind.
I'm fascinated because it's such a large cult. Most cults don't get very big before they implode. I'm also fascinated by the Scientologists.
Check out this quote from a former Mormon from http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon_shorts.htm
You enter a small stall, and sit on a cold marble type slab. The female temple worker doing the washing and anointing stands behind and to the side of you and starts with the top of the head, the forehead, the eyes, nose, mouth, breast, bowels, legs..etc. She has a little spigot she gets water from that drips slowly. The oil is done in the same fashion. Nothing untoward, of a sexual nature is done, but it is just very, very ethically and culturally out of order. How anyone can equate that to something spiritual just amazes me.
The washings and anointing are only required the first time you go to the temple now as these ordinances are done in blocks by people who do only those kinds of sessions.
If you go through as proxy for any dead relative, you must do the washing and anointing along with it. Years ago, we did the washing and anointing and the endowment session for the same name all in one evening. Sometimes doing two sessions doing it all for two deceased people.
The part that is so unethical and disrespectful is that no one tells the new initiate anything ahead of time.
You go and do what dozens of other people are doing. It is very difficult to leave once you get in the temple. It can be done, I know, I have watched people do it, but it is rare. This is group pressure at it's most intense.
Under no other circumstances would anyone even dare to consider that you would strip naked, put on a shield as it is called carrying your underwear and go into a small room alone with someone you do not know while they whisper the memorized dialogue, usually with a breath mint in their mouth then help dress you.
Perhaps there has been some change in the recent years to honestly and completely, through full disclosure, prepare the new temple attendee, however, I doubt it. The Mormon church has no policy for full disclosure or they would disclose every single thing about their history, their finances and their temple ceremonies to anyone who investigates or/or joins.
And, don't' even start with me on that "milk before meat" nonsense. We are all adults with all our teeth.
Originally, I am told, this was a complete washing and anointing, similar to some other religious customs.
Memories of washing and anointing rituals.
I can still see the rows of tiny lockers where we completely undressed and donned the sheet tunic, carrying our long garments into the little cubical where the old lady awaited me.
I can still see, hear and feel and smell those old women. The were like a grandma dressed in a white uniform, false teeth clacking, chewing a breath mint I could feel their breath and smell the aroma of the mints as she whispered in my ear reaching under the sheet with those warm, sweaty, damp hands sliding over here and over there, anointing me first with dabs of water from head to toe, then going the same thing with oil. I can still hear the water trickling from the tiny spigot that she put her hands into to begin the anointing. I can still hear the sing-song monotone of her memorized washing and anointing dialogue.
MY MEMORIES:
Sometimes, I had to stifle a giggle as the old woman inadvertently tickled me and I squirmed. I tried to sit really, really still so she would not slide her wet, warm oily hand anywhere it ought not to be as her face was averted outside the sheet and she could not see where she had her hands. Sometimes she slid her hands within inches of my breasts and pubic hair as she slid her hands around in her predetermined and well practiced path. I always hated it and I would shudder when she slide those warm, oily hands down my legs onto my feet. When she finished she would help me step into my underwear, while still wearing that sheet tunic, adjusting it properly and sending me out into the dressing area where dozens of other women were coming and going. I always had the feeling she wanted to kiss me, she was so pleased. I still shudder.
How does the Mormon church get old Mormon men and women to believe it is a sacred ordinance to touch your naked body under a sheet with little dabs of water then oil while you sit in a small cubicle?
What we will do in the name of pleasing the Mormon God!
2007-03-15 10:14:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Meatbot Unrated apparently has some issues with the LDS, which is absurd, in my opinion. Like previously stated, he obviously does not have enough of the correct knowledge aout our religon or what we stand for. Anything that has had such a good and positive impact on the world and humanity as we know it can in no way be a cult. I just don't understand why he has to go badmouthing the LDS, as no one seems to be doing that to him. What provoked the abhoration and intolerance? We have the same rights to the first amendment as you do.
2007-03-18 14:51:24
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answered by cdaae663 4
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I guess since Meatbot answered it really makes all other answers invalid. You can never really tell with people. Some people are former Mormons with chips on their shoulders (like Ed Decker who wrote the God Makers - was excommunicated three times). Others are insecure with their own beliefs and must tear down others to find validation. Still others just have it in their nature to try and discredit and make people look bad, whether its some deep rooted insecurity or just a caloused heart. Still some just have no respect for mankind. And finally, some are honestly concerned that Mormons are lost and think they can help them (which is odd, because all religions are equally as unprovable and disputed in various circles). Religion is personal and therefore we should just respect the individual.
Why is Meatbot getting thumbsdown??? He does have the correct answer!
2007-03-16 11:42:06
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answered by straightup 5
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Before reading Meatbot's answer, I knew the answer was no, for me, a member, it's fairly obvious he doesn't understand the religion enough to have been one (unless it was just while he was a kid or something).
I do wonder why the fascination with us though?
2007-03-15 17:18:43
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answered by daisyk 6
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ugg mormons.
sorry, im only fascinated with them because they were the ones taking all the **** before Scientology came around. And anyways only a sector of mormons are considered cultist because they are polygamist (insest, multiple wives) Other wise they are just annoying.
2007-03-15 17:29:14
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answered by Amethyst 3
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I don't know.
Hey are you a former Mormon?
2007-03-15 17:11:50
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answered by chris p 6
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well, if not he sure has some issues with them.
2007-03-15 17:13:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Sure. Whoever that is.
2007-03-15 18:04:06
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answered by Anonymous
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It's spelled Moron.
2007-03-15 17:15:04
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answered by Zen禅Maiden :ジェダイ 3
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