Are we really all equal?

Question

In Darwin's theory of evolution, he said that organisms adapt and evolve accordingly to their surroundings. Does this mean that white people are naturally better at things than black people? He also said that black people were more "primitive" than the caucasians.


PS: I'm not a white, or racist person.

Darwin did say this. Remember the friggin finchs people?

Why are some of you guys insulting me? I'm not saying that your beliefs in evolution is not true.

Answer 1

well...if organisms evolve according to there surroundings, why didn't all the apes evolve with us? and if we are all in the same family, started by two little ape's, then we were all in the same surroundings, since ape's really didn't have cars or trains or airports back then and I don't believe any one ever said that ape's can breathe underwater....

"But if Darwin said they did..It is must be true!"

Answer 2

No, we do not all have equal abilities. This is mostly individual and not significant according to race, although some generalisations about races can be made.

For instance, black people tend to be taller and so may be better at basketball, but the height would be a disadvantage in competitive horse-riding events. Basketball and horse-riding are not evolutionary events - they are sporting events.

It is not useful or accurate to say that one racial group is 'better' than another except in very specific instances. It certainly cannot be useful to apply the argument to something as all-encompassing as evolution.

As far as black people being more 'primitive' than white people...... I do not know the arguments for or against this and even if I did I cannot see any benefit to discussing it when there could be no definitive result to the discussion except bad feeling. The social climate is not ready for this question and may not be for a long time to come.

Answer 3

From an evolutionary point of view, people with darker skin are more adapted to living in hotter parts of the world, as there is less risk from skin cancer and sun burn.

As for saying blacks were more primitive, Darwin was a product of his time, his theories are still brilliant, regardless of his personal opinions.

Answer 4

obviously not everyone is equally capable in every area. The point of being equal is that we all have equal value. Even if you cant memorize 1000 digits a second liek the guy living next to you doesnt mean u dont deserve to be alive.
Personally, I think yes, there are 'average' differences between whites and blacks, and men and women. Ill say it. And recognizing differences is a major part of accepting them. However, the crossover is huge. Theres plenty of black people, for example, who are far beyond the ability of the 'average' white guy. Genius happens in every race. Even in periods of extreme racism, during slavery, some blacks were jsut so brilliant that everyone noticed, and they were sorta given special rules applied to them. So you just have to treat every individual with an open mind.

Answer 5

I agreed with everything Darwinism said except the Euro centric remarks he gave. He went so far to demonize other cultures because they were different from his own. Its the historical white supremacy and social pressure that made him do it. Did you know there was a human zoo in the early twentieth century that was a propaganda tool to show the primitiveness of non-whites. We have a racist history.

Answer 6

Gee, why would you post this in the "R&S" section? It's a mystery.

Darwin, like practically all thinkers of his day, had some ideas that were plainly influenced by Victorian social mores. We can see this now from the modern POV; a few generations hence they'll laugh at the quaintness of some of our ideas. That doesn't mean we should assume that prior generations were absolute fools. We adjust, refine, perfect - sometimes abandon - our ideas; that's science. As opposed to religion. Darwin wasn't right about everything, but he gave us some great material to work on.

Answer 7

You sort of answered your own question
"In Darwin's theory of evolution, he said that organisms adapt and evolve accordingly to their surroundings"

We are not all equal, but we have all equal potential (in general).

If you were born and grew up in a primative tribe in the amazon, you wouldn't have an equal chance of getting into yale as someone born and grew up in an upper middle class household in suburban NYC.

Answer 8

Nature does not make equals, in general. Every different adaptation carries separated populations further apart genetically. The idea that the races are equal is very new, and very wrong. The idea that "race does not exist" (sometimes stated as "there's only one race, the human race") is nothing more than a leftist propaganda slogan.

These are facts, not slogans:

1. The average volume of a White brain is 1500 cubic centimeters, whereas the average volume of a Black brain is 1350 cubic centimeters. The brain volumes of mulattos (Black-White hybrids) is generally somewhere in between.

2. The average IQ of White Americans is 102. The average IQ of Blacks resident in the United States is 85.

3. The national averages for the SAT I are... Whites, Math: 528, Verbal 526. Blacks, Math: 423, Verbal 434

4. The national averages for the Stanford 9TA are...
Whites, Total Reading: 82.3, Total Math: 84.8, Science: 88.3, Partial Battery: 80.8, Total Battery: 82.3.
Blacks, Total Reading: 40.3, Total Math: 44.7, Science 45.7, Partial Battery: 43.5, Total Battery: 43.7.

5. The national averages for the ACT are... Whites: 21.7, Blacks: 17.1

The obvious cause of the gap in academic achievement and in IQ is the differential in brain size. But the influence of racial egalitarian "political correctness" is so great that all the researchers always, every time, ignore that fact and go hunting through the epistemological wilderness for a "social" explanation. The titles of their essays and treatises are often leading questions... is it poverty? Is it bad water? Is it malnutrition? Is it social injustice?

No, it's simply brain size.

Every race has a distribution, a bell curve spread, of intelligence among its individual members. Every race has a small percentage of retards and a small percentage of very gifted people.

But, although the shape of the curve is the same for all races, their middle peaks, their average values, don't occur in the same spots. The White race distribution is shifted upward by 15 IQ points compared with the distribution for Blacks. That means that average Whites are 15 IQ points smarter than average Blacks. It also means that the higher your minimum qualifying IQ score is, the lower will be the ratio of Blacks to Whites who can meet the qualification.

Every time you hear anyone say that the races are equal, ask him to prove it. He won't be able to. Leftists never prove their claims. They merely try to shout you down when you disagree with them, or they censor you, or threaten you, or try to lay a guilt trip on you. Anything but supply evidence in favor of the theory of racial equality. Racists are always asked to document and prove what they say, and, when they do, the leftists don't look at any of it. Yet when the leftists are challenged for evidence, they act as if they owe none, as if their dogma had to be considered true for moral reasons, so it must be immune to skeptical inquiry.

Answer 9

lol no...in the long run who is more succesful? I think black people as a race are less successful over a very short period of time, largely because of cultural differences instead of actual genetic ones. Also, our history is not documented long enough to make such a statement. And according to this logic, Asians are the worlds dominant race. Oh wait, maybe there's something to this after all...lol I'm Asian and just joking around with you guys.

Answer 10

You mean someone in the 1800's America was racist? Wow, what a shocker.

Yes species adapt, but race is difference from species. We as humans have created the term "race" to describe the different "colors" of human beings. So really, evolution doesn't apply to races.

What a weak argument.

Answer 11

Races are adapted to a set of environmental conditions and cannot be said to be superior without referring to an environment. Whites are adapted for colder weather but the Inuit are adapted for even colder weather.
Its all relevant to an evironment.

Darwin was a 19th C Englishman and was not perfect in all his judgements, just an outstanding scientist.