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for a sheep, then jump around happily? I saw this ceremony. It is called Peter Chamor. Give information, please.

2007-03-15 10:06:01 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Hey racist in a yarmulke, peter and Pehter are the same thing, moron. There is no standard way to transliterate Hebrew. And yes, I know, you do not really know because you are ignorant and want to hide it by changing transliteration with all the correct vowel and consenant sounds to an equivalent, then pretend your too good to answer. Learn about your own religion, moron.

2007-03-15 11:04:52 · update #1

I knew what it was Jew. Look at my other answer to another poster regarding piety and fun, where I described it, and why it is done. You are a fool.

I just like to ask Jews questions about their religion they don't know, then make fun of them when I do. So you knew. It must make you very proud that you know as much about your religion as an Arab Palestinian.

About your grandparents, I'm sorry they suffered. They did not deserve that, and I won't pretend they did just to insult you.

But let's be honest. You and me are not the same. You can get money for it. The people who raped my grandmother now get paid billions a year from Germany so they can keep her locked in a camp, which they destroyed several times.

Pay me Billions, and maybe I won't hate you too. But I still would. Because I'm not a Jew. You can't buy my forgiveness with money.

And whereas most Germans are not Nazis, you are a Zionist, which you have admitted, so you approve of what was done to her and me

2007-03-15 11:49:11 · update #2

Teacher, I apolagize to you. I respect the effort you put into yourself. You will see now why I asked the question though I've been through Shas and Shulchan Aruch.

LADY SURI! You prove again you are not really a Jew. I asked this question just to trap you, and you particularly.

Teacher and I just discussed the entire ceremony, it's reasons, and he listed all the places relevant to it in SHas Bavli. You missed all that and insisted there is no such ceremony. IT'S A MITZVAH DOREITA. It's from the Bible!

2007-03-15 12:08:45 · update #3

AND NOW, you edited your answer so instead of saying, "There is no such ceremony," you now say you didn't know what peter chamor was, but do know what Pehter Chamore is. Easily confused by hominims in transliteration? Yes, she's right it is like pidyon haben. SHe knows that because I mentioned it in my answer, that I pointed to above.

2007-03-15 19:12:06 · update #4

Just like in your other answers you came up with such gems as, "Yammakas" (sic), thenchanged it to Yarmulke when I corrected you.

Or that Jews wait 6 hours before dairy after meat so "it can work through the digestive system." (Brilliant, Lady Suri. It's so the fats on the mouth will be disolved. What's inside doesn't matter according to any opinion.)

and my favorite, "In Jesus' time heretics were stoned." Heretics were never stoned or executed at all. I corrected you, and youchanged your answer to appear like you knew the basics of Judaism again.

And I read your answer about Jewish hats. You said velvet yarmulkes are worn only by Chasidim.

And you corrected a Christian when he quoted Psalm 14:1 by saying the original hebrew says.....And you were wrong by a huge margin.

You don't know head or tail about Judaism beyond some reading at the Messianic Library in your Messianic synagogue.

2007-03-15 19:19:54 · update #5

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See, why do you have to go and spread your hate. First, you have to clean your image if you want to eat at our homes for Pessah. I think that is why you are asking all of these questions, I am on to you. By the way who is Peter Chamor? Is he your neighbor? He sure is not a neighbor of mine. I bet that he has issues. Were you sleeping in the barn again?
On the other hand, if you want to insult us at least do it right. It is pronounced, PEH-ter Cha-MORE. Not Peter Chamor. I will not answer your question, until you ask it nicely without insulting my faith. There are limits on how one should ask. Please rephrase. It is actually an awesome mitzvah. Thanks for reminding me. I will share with my students about this mitzvah. They will get a joy out of it.

Edit:

Okay, I am confused when I became a racist, since I have not insulted you or anyone else. I was just making a joke on your comment the way you phrased the question, that was a racist posting. Furthermore, I do know what it is and what is with all the insults? Does this make you a bigger person? Do you kiss your mother with such tongue?
To answer your question is as follows:
It is called in English the initiation of a donkey. If the owner of the donkey does not want the newborn he gives it to the Temple. If he wants it he gives instead kid, a lamb or a calf. Only Kohanim and Isralim may redeem the donkey. Levites are exempt for m this process. Since, we have no Temple today, the Kohanim may take the donkeys instead. Or he can receive goats or sheep.
Furthermore, here were you can look up the laws to this:
Attempting to sanctify a first-born Kosher animal for an offering: Temurah 25a
Status of the animal if a Gentile is a joint owner: Pesachim 6a
Status of the animal if its Mother was to be taken as part of the King's tithe: Pesachim 6a
Status of an animal if its mother had been sanctified for Temple use, and then the mother had become blemished and been redeemed: Temurah 10b, 33b
Whether one may sell or redeem such a substitute animal for money: Temurah 5a-b, 8a, 21a
What happens to children of an animal which is substituted for a first-born Kosher animal: Temurah 21a-b
Whether these rules apply outside of Israel: Kiddushin 37a
The First-Born Donkey of a Nochri: Menachot 67a
Status of an animal which may be the First-Born: Bava Metzia 6b
Status of an animal which is redemption for an animal which may not have been the First-Born: Bava Metzia 6b
Since you claim that you have read Shas in two years then you should know where to look it up the information.
By the way, my grandma was raped in front of her parents during the Nazi occupation of Ukraine. Her father was shot in front of her eyes after the deed was done. She too has been branded with a tattoo. Her two siblings ages 3 and 5 were taken away from her and she has not seen them since. They are presumed to be dead. Still, I do not nor ever hated Germans or cursed them for what they have done. I have not tried to humiliate a German nor spit into his face. My granddad, spend 7 years (1971-1978) in gulag for his Zionist activities and before that during the war he was confined to ghetto (he saw his brother being shot point blank range). I was beaten up for being a Jew three times in Russia. Still, I respect Russians and do not blame the entire nation for the crimes committed by few creeps. The are rotten apples in all faiths and in all nationalities. However, not once will you hear me say that Russians are so and so. Not once will you hear me say that Germans are so and so.
I am a lover of my faith and I will defend my faith against accusations made by those who hate Israel and Judaism. By the way it has taken me four years to read the Shas, but I have read it. It was kind of difficult to learn English and Hebrew at the same time and to learn what it is to be a Jew. Plus to attend university full time.

Edit:
Just because I am a Religious Zionist it does not mean that I condone what bunch of rapists have done to your grandma. By the way, I appreciate your sincere condolences. I would like to point out that Muslims have also been known to rape Jews. In Chechnya three years ago a Muslim by the name of Kamir Nashiv, was caught for raping 5 little girls. Two of those girls were Jewish. It happens. Personally, I would wish for all of these people to be castrated so that they would not be able to rape anyone ever again.
Does it make me proud that I know as much as a Palestinian? No, not really. It makes me proud that you know so much. I hold no ill feelings about it. Maybe, the more you learn about Judaism, the more you will see that we are people just like anyone else. We have righteous amongst us as well as morons. Same can be said about any faith. I just hope that you will give up your needless hate and allow for greater peace amongst our people.

Edit:

LadySuri, is correct in her notion and you know, I would have never thought of her explanation on Pehter Chamore being compared to Pidyon Haben. This is actually an interesting notion.

2007-03-15 10:38:53 · answer #1 · answered by Teacher 4 · 0 0

Don't worry about Sammer, Teacher, he gets angry when confronted by real Jews. Just listen to what he's going to say about me!

Ya huh. I don't know who Peter Chamor is. I know what peh-ter cha-more is. Pehter Chamore is to donkeys as Pidyon Haben is to Jews. I just don't feel the need to prove myself to you. You're not worth the time :-)

2007-03-15 11:48:42 · answer #2 · answered by LadySuri 7 · 0 0

It's called the sammer.

2007-03-15 10:09:50 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You really must give up the hashish habit.

2007-03-15 10:11:05 · answer #4 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 1 0

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