To people who oppose gay adoption due to their religious beliefs?

Question

You say that gay couple should not be able to adopt a child because the gay life style is perverted and wrong because it says so in the bible or wherever.

So would you would rather a child stay in an orphanage until they turn 18?

Or would you rather them stay in a situation with a man and woman (as you say it should be) while they are getting abused sexually and or physically.

Or how about have them stay with a couple of alcoholics or drug abusers.

I just really don't understand your thinking. As long as a gay couple is capable of loving that child and giving them a good upbringing why should it matter if they're gay?
There are plenty of straight couples who aren't even half as capable of being parents, but in your mind they're should have the child because their relationship is "natural".

To Destroy, Sarge, Hand......
I know you are all against gay adoption, but you didn't really answer the question....I didn't ask if you were against it, I asked if you would really rather have a child in a bad environment being abused by their male and female "natural" parents, rather than have them in a loving happy environment where the parents happen to be gay.

Hands
I'm not saying that anyone is superior over anyone, I never once said that. I also never said that there aren't gay people who use drugs or drink..I'm not that naive. I'm not baised either, and since it seems like you're wondering, I am straight.
The question was pretty simple though, and you did a pretty good job of side stepping it. Just answer the question, would you rather see a child suffer in a bad environment instead of seeing them adopted by a gay couple. Pretty simple question.

The above statement is to Ricks, not hand.

Ricks...
First of all I'm not trying to disrespect your position at all. You are fully entitled to your beliefs. My question was the result of people that said that gay adoption should never happen because they are morally decrepid I'm not trying to be noble, I just feel that IF a gay couple IS capable of raising a child in a good envirnmont they should be able to adopt. Why would I argue with Agent? She explained her reasons and why. I completly understand that. While I do know that not all gay couples are capable of being good parents, not all straight couples are either. And I don't know if you have ever been in the system or tried to adopt a child...but most couples (hetrosexual) want newborns or young infants. So that means that there are thousands upon thousands of older kids out there that alot of people arent willing to adopt So does that mean we leave them in bad foster homes or in the system because we won't let the gay couple adopt them?
Yeah, I used extremes

but that's because I got alot of people that said that gay couples should never be allowed to adopt....so I wanted those type of people to answer and see if they could actually say they would rather see a child suffer in a bad envirnment rather than go to a good home just because the couple was gay.

I don't care if you agree with me or not, and I'm not looking for you to agree with me. I just wanted to know if some of these people would rather see a child in that extreme of a situation and be able to justify it to themselves.

I guess I would just rather see a child in a good home with a gay couple than being beaten by a straight couple. Yeah I know it's an extreme example, but like I said this question was to the people that said gay couples should never be allowed to adopt, and you know as well as I do that extremes to happen in every situation.

Answer 1

Better to be in an orphanage than in an abusive home or be teased at school for having two moms or two dads.

Answer 2

The people who are against it most likely dont know what life is really like for a child without a home or a family. They most likely dont know that so many of those children get shifted from Point A to B o C all the way to Z and back again with their clothing in a black garbage bag, are likely to turn out to later be the very screwed up individuals. They dont know that a loving home no matter gay or straight is better than no home. And whats worse for those kids is that we cant change these peoples minds those those ridiculous bills that are being brought up and voted on are going to be passed and those kids will suffer. And later, when the kid is on your street corner selling drugs, drinking and getting doped up, robbing their house, or raping their daughter or son because of how screwed up they are, and then they want to lock em up and throw away the key, they need to remeber the the cycle started when they passed bills like that.

Answer 3

This is a hard question for me, because I was raised by a gay couple, and physically and sexually abused by them. I would have rather stayed in an orphanage. And because I am a Christian and know Christ, it was especially hard growing up, knowing that homosexuality is wrong in God's eyes. You're right, there are man and wife marriages, and they aren't good parents. And for that, I don't have an answer to. But because of how I was raised, I made a vow to myself and God to be a better parent than those who raised me. I've asked God to forgive them, not only for the way I was raised, but because of the lifestyle that they have chosen. I have an advantage in this question because I can tell you that being raised by two women instead of a man and woman was really hard. Mentally it was wearing, and people made fun of me. I always wanted a father figure, but never had one. And I think that having both a man and woman household would have been a lot easier. I hated being raised by a gay couple, it made me feel dirty. I guess I don't really have an answer to your question. But I do know that God does give us second, and third, and fourth chances.... and if people choose it, they are forgiven. Parenting is on the job training, there is no book on how to raise a child. And it's sad that gay and straight couples take advantage of what a blessing children are.

Answer 4

I agree with you. Some people just don't think!

A good home is a good home, and what is more important to a child's growth and development that a good home and parents, be they male and female or two women or two men, who support them and love them and provide a safe and secure environment.

What are people thinking? Maybe a few weeks in an abusive home or in a state institution for the orphaned will help them understand better that we need to set aside our unfounded fears and misinformation and start nurturing our children than handing them off to unknown sources because of personal prejudices.

It's all about the kids, or at least it should be. There is so much misinformation out there, where do we start to educate these folks to the reality of abusive homes and government institutions, and the real truth about same sex partners?

And no, I am not gay. That makes no difference to me. People, no matter what their sexual orientation, if they are stable, loving and have the ability to provide for kids, should be allowed to do so.

Answer 5

You are only looking at it from the surface from your point of view. I don't believe in god so this has nothing to do with my religion. You have to think in the terms of a 13 14 year old boy or girl with two of the same sex parents. This has to be one of the most difficult times in a persons life its the age where your body goes though a lot of changes and the last thing you want is to be different and not "cool". I guarantee that if you do a poll of every 13-14 year old child and see if they would rather have gay or straight parents the answer for straight would be over barring, think of the kids dude.

Answer 6

when you judge a rule to be true or not .you should apply it to all the society and not to individuals!
what about thousands of gay children who don't know their true parents!who is responsible of that?why there are thousands of orphanage?what about abortion? isn't that a crime to kill an innocent human soul?why all these problems?i think that understanding the responsibility towards children and society and the meaning of man's and woman's role in life will shrink the irresponsible relationships between couples..that will shrink alcoholic parents also..
a society that have nothing forbidden ,will be damaged entirely as the time goes by!!
the problem is not just in naturalizing homosexuality but also in allowing sexual relationships out of marriage and allowing alcohol and other behaviors that threatens family and the whole society!
and let me say another important thing:
you can't solve the problem of alcoholic parents by the problem of gay parents!!
it is like asking what is the worse and the worst solution of the problem!!!

Answer 7

so is what you are saying that all gay couples are superior to husbands & wives? That is rediculous! There is no such thing as a gay person who uses drugs & alcohol? They are incapable of abusing others? Why would you use the most extreme of poor circumstances to describe a hetero couple & the best case scenario for gays? You sound just a little bit more than biased.

Your argument is silly b/c you assume that proper care cant be had with a man & woman. If the child was in foster care already, that means that they were most likey REMOVED from an abusive environment. You are trying to paint a picture that any grease stained t-shirt wearer can just waltz in an agency & have his & her pick of children & load them in the back of the pick up as if they were at the McDonalds drive through with no questions asked.

ADDED INFO IN RESPONSE:
1st, I never wondered if you were gay. Dont care. Its not relevent to the conversation. Just because I have religious convictions does not mean that I have blinders on.

You most certainly are biased. You just dont think you are because you feel you are being noble. And based on your question & extreme examples, that does show a bit of being naive. Not totaly, but in this instance, yes. Because you are trying to create extremes as the norm. That is also why I cant give you a simple yes/no. It is not that type of question. What you are doing is trying to get people, who already have a moral belief, to think the way you want them to (which is YOUR way) by presenting them 2 worst case scenarios & want us to agree with your predetermined outcome as to the lesser of the 2 evils.

Dont get me wrong (I cant speak for all others) I RESPECT your possition even though I dont agree with it. I just am asking the same from you. So far, I am dissapointed.

I didnt see you argue down agent pierce. I guess that situation is unheard of & impossible.

Answer 8

I don't know how it works in other countries, but in Holland we have an adoption board. They test and judge if a couple is capable of raising a child. If they allow it, a couple can adopt a child.

I don't see why any religious zealot should have more knowledge about adoption than the professionals on this matter.

So, of course. Anybody can adopt, if they are suitable. Regardless of whatever sexual preference they might have.

Answer 9

All children should be taken out of abusive situations,

No christian will ever say to you that an abusive or or a drug addictive situation is should be tolerated.

but why do you think that that is the only other option for a child in care?

What you dont seem to understand in your question is that a child who is waiting to be matched with potential adopters has already been taken out of the abusive situation and is living with foster carers.

Taking a child out of an abusive situation is not direcly related to the adoption process. as children taken out of abusive situations go into fostering first.

Answer 10

The optimum is for a man and a woman to raise a child. Bad parents exist across the spectrum of potential parents, this is a result of sin. Your definition of a bad parent is flawed as it is the duty of every parent to see to it that there kids have the knowledge to find God. Every physical comfort could be available and had and to fail in this is the worst form of parenting.

Answer 11

We need MORE families who are willing to adopt, not less. Studies have shown that children raised by a gay couple will NOT turn out gay and will NOT have any serious problems. People are just grasping at reasons to hold onto their prejudices.