How can athiests have so much faith? Part 2?

Question

It seems that people are not understanding what it is that I am saying. Allow me to try it one more time:

1) I use the term faith because that is exactly what it is, faith. You don't know where the universe originated from, you just know that it has an origin. Now science has no explanation about where or how the begining of the universe took place so please dont use phrase's like "Science I can see." In truth, science at the moment isn't anywhere close to giving you the answers. So, if science can't give you physical, beyond a shadow of a doubt evidence for the origins of the universe, then aren't you going by faith. Faith that science will someday have the answers?

2) I am asking where "everything" came from. If not from God then from where? Please, if you use science as a reason then back it up with proof please otherwise you my friends, are going by faith.

If you cant back anything up, please do not feel the need to respond in a mocking or negative tone. I am asking this question with respect and would appreciate thoughtfull answers.

Please also note that I did not say "my" God, I said God. Stick to the question please.

Answer 1

My guess is that they're not really atheists.

I think personally, that they are agnostics - disguised as Atheists...'cause it sounds more cool. ;)

When you really stop to think about it, it doesn't make the least little bit of sense -

By the way, I think you're going to lose alot of people due to the length of your question.

God Bless.

Answer 2

You're not asking this question with respect, you're doing it in a condescending tone, constructing plenty of strawmen as you go.

"You don't know where the universe originated from, you just know that it has an origin."
I don't know if it even has an origin. For all I know, it could have always been here. I'm not a cosmologist. Where's the faith here?

"Faith that science will someday have the answers?"
Playing games with semantics does not make your god real. There's a huge difference between religious faith and 'faith' used in the colloquial sense, and you know it.

" I am asking where "everything" came from. If not from God then from where? "
Why are the only options a)your particular God and b) something else? You're generating a false dichotomy here.
Why couldn't it have come from MULTIPLE gods? Why couldn't it have come from the teapot orbiting Neptune? Everything came from somewhere, obviously, but if your god exists, where did HE come from? Don't, in your next breath, tell me that "he always existed", because I'll immediately slice you with Ockham's Razor. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look it up.)

I am an atheist because I do not believe in any gods.
I do not make claims about the origin of the universe.
I don't hold any beliefs or faith in anything that is irrational (at least, I try not to.).

Atheism is not a faith position. It is a negative one... it is a lack of a faith in gods. You can have 'faith' in whatever else you want, as long as it isn't completely irrational.

So, sparky. What did you learn?

Answer 3

Sir, because science has not discovered the origin of the universe yet, and the answer may never be known. Don't you get it. That is not something that time is spent contemplating on by most people because it really makes no difference.

You can guess it was God if you want to. As a deist, I too, think that it was God. I have no proof, there is no proof.

Don't you get it? There are scientific theories, of course but does anyone have "faith" that there will ever be proof of anything?

Answer 4

Most atheist believe in only what can be proven. Nothing can be proven by religion since religion is based on faith. Science gets closest to providing and answer since it is base on theories that are partially experience by us on every day life. Personally I am a Christian, and I still fail to understand why people believe that science or evolution disprove the existence of God. I have faith in God, yet I also believe in evolution and science. The more we strive to comprehend things, the more we generate new questions that need answering. I believe that is what God wanted us to do. Also keep in mind you are saying "Science at the moment". A 1000 years ago we did not understand electricity in lightning, now it is the main component of modern life and we understand it very well. When I hit the switch I expect the light bulb to come on. If it does not I do not get down on my knees and pray, I troubleshoot the problem and fix it. God already gave me the ability to think and figure things out. The rest is up to me. You either pray for the light to come on or roll up your sleeves and fix the problem. I believe God prefers we do the latter.

Answer 5

1- Faith is believing things without evidence. I NEVER do that.

2- Everything was probably always here in some form. The truth is no one knows. But saying that god made it doesn't really answer the question. It only delays it. Because now you have to tell where god came from. All you did was add complexity to the situation with no evidence. And you answered nothing.

Answer 6

It's not that people don't understand your questions, but rather that you don't know the difference between faith and reason.

I wasn't there when you were born, yet I believe that you were born and not brought by the stork. Is that faith or reason? I assume the universe is here, regardless of not knowing how it arrived. Is that faith or reason? Since we have only one universe, and there is no record of how it came about, there is nothing favoring it being brought by a cosmological stork vs. born by naturalistic processes. People not believing things because you believe them is not faith on their part.

Answer 7

I'm an atheist. Not a scientist.

I don't have faith in where the universe began and the question isn't burning a hole in my brain. Not knowing doesn't ruin my day. I don't have to explain it nor do I have to have it explained.

So I have no faith either way.

It isn't about weighing one against the other. I cannot be persuaded. As far as I'm concerned - we all have our own truth and think them superior to everyone else's. Nothing new!

When we figure it out, we'll figure it out, if we figure it out.

Answer 8

Where does everything come from? An atheist is usually not too afraid to simply admit the truth to that: "we don't know". We humans are too small to understand where we all came from.

The only honest answer is "I don't know". And actually your silly answer that same questions (goddidit), means just the same. You also have no clue.

We are like 6 billion bacterias on a grain of sand on a beach in the pacific, wondering how the beach came to existence. It's silly, really.

Answer 9

Of course science has explanations, and ideas, and theories. Really, don't just say things if you haven't looked into it.

Please look up the big bang, brane theory, and m-theory.

Where did your god come from? Got any theories for that?

Answer 10

When has Christianity provided proof of God's existence? I will believe in God when I have proof.

Answer 11

DOES it take you any FAITH to not believe in Santa Claus, leprechauns, Easter Bunny, or The Tooth Fairy?

Does it Take us any FAITH to ask for evidence of the existence of God?

"Show me some evidence."
Do you see any faith in that?

Edit:
We atheists would rather say: " I don't know " and let the youngsters find the answers