Don't you think it's a bit foolish to say God exists b/c "Nature is too intricate to have just 'happened'."?

Question

I don't know about you, but for me, just because something is too complex for me to understand at the moment doesn't mean I just pass the buck off to God. Answering everything we think we are not intelligent enough to actually come up with an answer for with "God did it, 'nough said mates" leaves little room or hope for us actually knowing the true answer.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

Answer 1

If I roll 1,000,000 dice a billion times and get 6 every time for each single dice, would you say it's just pure luck or that I fixed the dice?

That argument is based on this, not ignorance.

Answer 2

You missed the big picture. When you do understand the complexity of biology - right down to the DNA of every living thing - it becomes apparent that something more deliberate was involved.., a purposely designed complex system that mankind could never have conceived without a model to go by and even then, they cant create life but build on whats there.., kind of like re-arranging Lego blocks to make different things.without inventing Lego blocks.

Its the marvels that are in the known and unknown complexities of nature that basically shows mankind, God did indeed leave his trademark. A word to the geneticists - they need to be careful bout how they mess around with God's trademark.

THINK DEEPER! Man is more than just flesh and blood.

Answer 3

In some ways it is simply easier to believe in creation and deny evolution. We can simply say "God did it" to explain anything we do not understand.

I went to a Catholic (Jesuit) university and still receive the alumni newsletter. In a recent article there was a debate between a professor of theology, a professor of anthropology and a professor of philosophy about creation and evolution. To back up a bit, official Catholic doctrine accepts evolution and does not see a conflict between science and religion. Times have changed since Galileo, to say the least. The theology professor made the most sense. His point was that using God to explain the unexplainable is poor science and also not the right way to think about God. As modern science has come to better understand the rising and setting of the sun, plant and animal reproduction, earthquakes etc. science has begun to chip away at some people's concept of God. This is not the way we should think of God. God is not some sort of stop leak to plug gaps in our understanding.

This is a long-winded way of saying that some people put themselves in a position where science and religion conflict. Then what? Either science wins and you become an atheist or you put your fingers in your ears and deny science. It is a lose-lose situation.

Answer 4

I think it is much more foolish to say that everything, it all it's extrordinary intricacy to just have 'happened'. I find it more fantasy to believe that the earth coaleced in an explosion of nothing and then the rain fell for millions of years, breaking down the rocks into a chemical soup and from this soup all life forms emerged. It's proposterous. I don't believe that everything that is came from rocks.

When I look at a beautiful sculpture, or painting, or high rise building, I don't think that someone just threw the clay into a bucket, shook it around and out came a masterpiece. Or just splashed paint onto a canvas and out came Starry Night by Van Gogh. Or the fantastic cathedrals in Spain and England were simply erected by throwing nails and boards into a pile and out it came, or by an explosion of glass and concret. When I look at the magnificent world we live in and the uncountable wonders that it contains, I think the same thing as I do when I look at a sculpture, painting or building. 'Wow, what an amazing design, SOMEONE must have DESIGNED it.'

I like to learn about how things work, from the eye of an octopus to the volcanos in the earth, to quantum physics. There are so many things that are amazing and intricate that I want to know about and how it works. Why it came into being or how it came into being, yes, I find it much easier to believe that God did it, an omnipotent Creator, then it coming from a rock.

Evolution has never been observed in nature, ever. It's a theory to suppose how things came into being. Many experiments have been done, trying to simulate what might've, could've happend, and all tests failed. All the so called 'evidence' used to 'prove' evolution has been shown by many esteemed scientists to be either false, fradulant or entirely speculation.

I believe everyone is free to believe what they choose to believe. I respect that and I don't condemn people for believing something different then me. But just like I find it foolish to believe that I can jump off a sky scraper and fly (on my own with no help from any device) I think it is just as foolish to believe everything came from a rock.

And as for the belief in God leaving little room for finding out the true answer, I'd like to know how? Just because people believe in God does not mean that scientists are suddenly going to stop searching, stop experimenting or stop theorizing. Unbelievers will always search for an answer to explain things that doesn't include God, regardless of how many people believe in Him.

Answer 5

Corollary: Is it foolish to say that just because something is complicated it happened by chance?

It's more than just intricate, it's more than just complicated, it is mathematically impossible. If one part in 10^10^26 is off then the universe can't support life. It would have either collapsed back in on itself or spun out so quickly there would be nothing heavier than helium in existence. (Incidentally there aren't even 10^10^26 atoms in the universe. That is an incomprehensibly large number). In addition to that, in order for evolution to have gotten us where we are today (without guidance) we would have had to start seeing complex multi-cellular creatures a mere few million years after the earth cooled. There is just not enough time there for random firings of chemicals to have produced even a simple single celled organism.

There's my thoughts on the matter.

Answer 6

Well, your thoughts are logical from your point of view. But picture yourself from the point of view of one who believes God created everything. This belief is not based on the fact that it is too complex to have come about by chance, it is merely reinforced by this fact.

And on the converse, I think evolution's "well, given enough time, anything can happen!" attitude is also passing the buck off to unproven theories who's shaky evidence doesn't seem to be adequately questioned by those who believe it.

When it comes to the universe's creation, I already know the true answer. God did it. 'Nough said.

Answer 7

I agree with that. It just sort of seems a cop-out answer for things people can't understand. Think of everything the world would be missing out on if EVERYBODY just said, "It was God's will." and refused to question or look further. Medically, we'd still all be considered old at 35, and probably dead by the age of 40.

Answer 8

They argue that because this world is complex, it must have been intelligently designed. They explain this by God.

But their argument has a serious flaw. They are effectivley claiming that because it is so complex, it needed something even more complex to create it. And in turn, that means God must have been created by something more complex than God, and so on and so forth. The argument of Natural Selection makes more sense because it explains how non-inteligent organisms (bacterium) were able to evolve over many years into inteligent organisms.

Answer 9

Yes you are right. The complexity of nature is not a proof of the existance of God. It's the simplicity of the first created life form that proves a creator. The begining is the proof of God, not the end result.

Answer 10

It is not foolish, it is sensible.

Most of us are far too logical to believe in an extensive amount of coincidentally balanced features that are necessary and relevant to the existence of life on Earth, biochemistry, carbon-based life, and a human beings ability to observe and understand this universe.

If you were the first person to row your boat up to Easter Island and saw a bunch of giant stone heads lined up on the beach facing you, would you really say to yourself, “obviously the wind, the rain, the sun and other environmental factors have carved these heads at random”?

These are the exact same environmental factors that science claims are responsible for our own origins.

The proper logical conclusion is that someone was here before me and that someone is responsible for carving a bunch of stone heads and lining them up on the beach.

Answer 11

I have a simple belief that is this: we all know that the bible is not totally accurate and is mostly there to help guide us, but when I began researching evolution I found that a whole lot of it was jumping from one gap to the other and that they don't mention that most mutations are deadly or are unhelpful to the animal. So my theory is this that God is the dude who gave all those animals(and every other thing on this planet) the right nudge to evolve into the right things.