Are you required by law to obtain a social security number?

Question

yes or no.

Well..... thats interesting. Now can you guys provide me with the law that states you must have and/or apply for it?

An employer cannot deny you employment if either the person(s) will not divulge nor who does not have a SSN. What you just stated was in fact public opinion dear.

My rebuttal to your response is this: The privacy act of 1974.

My suggestion to all of you would be to study this one in detail and do not buy just what "public opinion" is. If you truly believe in "Rule of law" study this one in detail. You just might be in for a real surprise.

thequeenreigns: I could kiss you right now. Thanks for being awake.

Are private employers and private creditors federal government agencies? LOL!!! Afraid not.

to ms missy: One thing i would like to add. Read this: Privacy act of 1974, and 88 Stat. 1896, Sec. 7 (a) (1).

Answer 1

check out the link below to the entire article
this is just part of an articel I found discussing this issue:

First, I should note that this isn't something you just decide to do today, walk in on your boss tomorrow saying that you've decided not to have a SSN, and not get yourself in a big mess. There is a logical series of steps you need to perform (which I won?t go into in this article) and documents you need to have or file. You?ll probably also have a number of hearings before your employer, the SSA, the EEOC, and the Problem Resolution Office. If you're willing to go through all that, you too can work without a SSN.



1. Is there a law that requires anyone to apply for, request, or consent to the Social Security system and to obtain a number?
Answer: No

2. Does the IRS have a policy for dealing with religious objectors?
Answer: Yes

3. If a person had a number in the past, and subsequently rescinded that number, is there any law compelling him to use that number?
Answer: No

4. Does a waiver of benefits remove all of the objections of the SSA and other governmental agencies
Answer: Yes

5. Does the SSA recognize religious objectors?
Answer: Yes

6. Can employment be denied on the basis of a person's refusal to use a SSN, because he has a religious objection to its use?
Answer: No

7. Can a religious objector cancel his membership in a union and still work for a corporation?
Answer: Yes

8. Does a labor union have a fiduciary responsibility to a religious objector, who not a union member, in collective bargaining negotiations?
Answer: Yes

9. Is someone working for a corporation, regardless of his status as a religious objector, an employee for purposes of determining income tax liability?
Answer: Yes

10. Is there an employee exemption from the income tax?
Answer: We think so, but there is no test case as yet

11. Is there an exemption from Social Security taxes for a worker?
Answer: No

12. Who pays the Social Security tax in such cases?
Answer: The employer and the employee

13. What law prohibits corporations from refusing employment to someone who has no SSN for religious reasons?
Answer: Title 7 of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Immigration Reform Act of 1986

14. Can you file an income tax return without a SSN?
Answer: Yes

15. If a corporation fires an employee because of his status as a religious objector, or refuses to hire someone for that same reason, is that considered discrimination?
Answer: Yes

16. Does that also apply to labor unions and/or employment agencies act in a similar fashion?
Answer: Yes

17. Does the 1986 Immigration and Naturalization Act help religious objectors?
Answer: Yes

18. Is the mere use of a SSN considered an acceptance of Social Security benefits?
Answer: Yes

It appears that Congress intended to protect religious objectors in the same way that conscientious objectors have long been protected. However, this is not an invitation to anarchy; we should be careful to obey all the laws enacted by Congress to protect religious objectors in and out of the workplace. Likewise, status as a religious objector does not give one the right to break the tax laws. Over the years, I have seen many who obtain status as a religious objector and consider that status a license to heedlessly trample on the laws, the courts, and government as a whole. This does nothing but create problems for those of us who have obtained status as religious objectors, not for the purposes of trying to get out of paying taxes, but because our truly and sincerely held religious beliefs require that we do not march to the same drummer of society as a whole. I have been reticent to come public with much of the information I have learned over the years because of those who would use it for illegal and/or immoral purposes.

Getting back to our main point, if you have a corporate job, and desire to rid yourself of your SSN, you can keep your job, provided you follow the proper procedures. It is likewise considered legal discrimination to refuse someone employment because they do not have a SSN. And the simple act of not having a SSN is not a magic wand that you can wave in front of IRS agents to make them disappear. If you have corporate employment, with or without a SSN, the odds are that you will owe taxes.

Now, what I can say from my experience as a payroll clerk.

Payroll systems are set up to use a ssn# as an identifier for unemployment taxes, income taxes, social security and medicare taxes.
If you wish to work w/out a SSN# in a corporation in America your best bet would be to work as an independent contractor using a TIN# as your identifier. As an independent contractor no taxes unemployment or otherwise would be paid on your behalf and you would be solely responsible for contributing in to your social security account.
In the state of TN ( a hire/fire at will state) your employment is determined solely by the employer. That means if they want you to have a SSN# to put you to work- you had better have one.

Answer 2

Yes, you have to give the school your childs social security numbers. You also have to have a wellness check from a doctor, dentist, optometrist and proof of inoculations. If you cannot afford visit to private doctor you can take the children to family clinic and they will set you up with appointments for all. It's a bit of a headache and it took a total of 3 weeks before the kids were allowed to attend school. Feel free to email if you run into any problems or don't know who to call.

Answer 3

No you are not.
It is only a necessity if you wish to be able to access the SSI program upon retirement.

"The Social Security Act does not require an individual (citizen) to have a Social Security number to live and work within the United States, nor does it require an SSN simply for the purpose of having one...." Vincent Sanudo, Social Security Administration

It has just been utilized by employers and creditors as another way to gather information on individuals

Answer 4

YES (citizens)! When you file a tax return you have to have a valid SS#. That means the kids too. Anyone that says you don't need one is WRONG!!!

Even if you never work (not likely) you still MUST have a SS#. The parents can't claim the kids without one!

EDIT: Hey "Sir Shaggy" a SS# isn't "issued at birth." You have to apply for the number when a baby is born! There is a difference.

Answer 5

Yes, and in the last several years, the hospital applies for the SSN and the parent(s) will receive the number in 8-13 weeks.

Answer 6

SSA Publication No. 05-10002, October 2006 (Recycle prior editions), ICN 451384 [View .pdf] (En Español)
A Social Security number is important because you need it to get a job, collect Social Security benefits and receive some other government services. Many other businesses, such as banks and credit companies, also ask for your number.

Answer 7

No, you are not required to obtain one, only if you want to be EMPLOYED.

If you run your own business, you technically don't need a SSN, because you can apply for an EIN (i think that's what it's called), which is basically a number just to pay your business taxes with.

But technically, you are not required to have one, it's just that life without one would be somewhat inconvenient.

Answer 8

YESSSS....If you are a US citizen. YESSS whatever you like or not...Is a # that each person that are working, living legally in the US have to have...Why? Simple to be able to get a job + all other things that need it. Is a way to Identified your eligibility here in the US...

Answer 9

yes

Answer 10

yeah, this is kind of funny, My answer is no you don't ever need to get one. You do however have to pay Social Security tax when you work, therefore, you need one to work.