Can anyone please inform me of any scientific proof be it studies, observable facts, papers, what not, that disproves religion in any way?
Please dont answer if its going to be "people can choose to follow whatever they want" freedom blah blah as that will not answer my question.
Peace x
2007-03-13 22:34:38 · 23 answers · asked by nick b 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Please dont answer if its going to be "people can choose to follow whatever they want" freedom blah blah or if your a moron and just put 'ok' as that will not answer my question.
2007-03-13 22:38:11 · update #1
None. Science is not there to disprove Gods, it is to explain "how." Religion and deities are two different things. Of course if a religion claims things that are illogical and nonsensical then yes they are easily disproved. But, that is not the purpose of science. Gods are powerful beings and are not subject to the constraints we have and that we impose on ourselves, They are above us. All scientists, notably the atheist ones, will offer you is their theory which can never be ascertained and will remain theory thereafter. Their opinions are not science, only their thoughts, which are subjective to their disposition. Science is objective. Never confuse the two, scientists ought to be objective themselves, however that is human nature; always wanting more.
If that is what you seek you will not find it. A quest to disprove The Gods, is not unlike a quest for perfection. They are fallacies.
2007-03-13 22:45:34 · answer #1 · answered by A-chan 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
In order to begin proving or disproving a god, a scientist would need a reasonable definition of "god" first. A scientist could then point out flaws in the definition, contradictions with reality, or, on the other hand, show that the definition is logical coherent and/or that the definition would be a valid model of reality. That's what science is all about. Science could develop a "god theory" and validate or falsify it.
The first problem for a scientific approach therefore is that there is no consistent definition of god. Instead, "god" is just a name for a vague concept of several religions, where probably each religion and maybe even each god-believer has his own definition.
An example of a scientific approach to a god definition is the so-called problem of "theodicy" (see link). This is indeed a discussion of contradictions within a god definition which has scientific qualities. As in all science, there are different opinions on the actual result, and the discussion is still going on.
2007-03-13 23:00:48 · answer #2 · answered by NaturalBornKieler 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
What science does is to give us a way to distinguish between good ideas and bad ideas - i.e. to show which explanation is the most consistent with observable reality.
Science shows us that great complexity does not just arise spontaneously. It is inconceivable that even the simplest bacterium could exist without something being responsible for the complexity of its structure, its biochemistry and so on. It would take the lifetimes of a billion universes for it to appear spontaneously, by pure chance - in fact it is probably safe to say that it simply could never happen.
This goes all the more for human beings. It's surely no coincidence that the only thing that we regard as truly intelligent - the human brain - is also the most complex thing in the known universe. Intelligence requires enormous complexity, far beyond anything that could conceivably exist without something being responsible for its existence.
By the same reasoning, it is infinitely more unlikely still that an intelligent entity capable of designing and creating an entire universe and everything in it could just exist from nowhere, from nothing, without anything being responsible for its existence.
Complexity, and especially the massive complexity required for intelligence, can therefore only arise from an antecedent, non-intelligent process - In the case of life on Earth, this means biological evolution.
So, to the extent that science allows us to reliably distinguish between plausible ideas and implausible ideas, it does effectively rule out the possibility of an intelligent entity as the uncaused cause of everything that exists.
Hope this helps.
2007-03-13 23:25:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
First you need to define God. until you do that you don't know what you are talking about.
Religion ducks this by claiming that the inability to define what they mean is a definition. I say that is utter rubbish.
You are asking for the proof that Santa is not real. Please, there is no scientific way to prove Santa unreal.
Look up what is the Invisible Pink Unicorn. The same proofs apply to that as to God.
So I say that IPU is as real as God. In fact Russel's Teapot, IPU, FSM, BOB DOBS, and all the Fairies, Trolls, Gnomes, Talking Horses and magical golden egg laying geese are just as real as God (or Jesus) is.
EDIT The answer above is very good. It is also very old and was proposed by a greek philosopher dealing with Greek Gods.
Notice how the definition works.
Bring out your God and we will kick its butt.
2007-03-13 23:01:51 · answer #4 · answered by U-98 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There isnt proof that there is no god because one cant really prove by observation that something doesnt exist. What there is is a mass of evidence that evlution is correct. So if one theory can be proven or at least has some evidence to support it as opposed to one that does not logic would dictate it was the one and not the other. You follow?
2007-03-13 22:39:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
God is such a great God. Excuse me while I capitalise Him but He has never once demanded anyone to believe Him. He is what He is. The First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega, just like He says He is.
God only asks people to come to Him out of Faith. Wild, weird, and not from today.....Today, people want to know the proof, where it was found, when it was done, etc. God only wants the faith that you have.
Take that word, faith. It means something if there is no proof. To prove it, means that it is no longer faith, but a science now. How awesome is that by God that there has been no one here on earth to disprove Him yet and make it a science where one can be sure of what one has studied enough and learned about to be with God.
Just the opposite, Jesus says that the only way to God is by Faith that He is the Salvation, dying for our sins.
Science might change based on which Darwin is accepted at the time, but God never changes and there is such peace listening to Him as I read His scriptures.....It makes me love Him even more when people say that He isn't real because all they believe is Hollywood and movies....
2007-03-13 22:47:01 · answer #6 · answered by kaliroadrager 5 · 0⤊ 4⤋
It can be disproved by simple logic alone...
Most religions describe god as being omnipotent, omniscient, perfect, and totally benevolent...
However, if this were true, the world could not be the way it is... We know that bad things happen every damn day.
You see, the occurrence of bad things ultimately means that the supposed god knew about those bad things before they happened, and yet he purposefully made the universe knowing that every one of those bad things would occur. Therefore, he isn't omniscient, or isn't benevolent. If he is benevolent, then he can't be omnipotent, because he would be able to control the bad things.
The traits that religions ascribe to god do not add up...
They are like saying 2 + 2 = 5.
Omnipotence, omniscience, total benevolence, and perfection do not add up, if our world is the sum.
Therefore, the god(s) as described by religions, do not exist...
2007-03-13 23:01:27 · answer #7 · answered by RED MIST! 5 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Don't know if this is the type of answer you're asking, but here goes anyway.. wanted to share this personal experience that left me spellbound...(this was my answer to a Y/A question asked previously)
Some yrs ago, I was sitting on my front porch during a warm summer night...there was a clear view of the nighttime stars...before this I had read in the Bible John 6, 35-37..and .was sitting there thinking about these verses...feeling "doubtful" and "hopeless" and said this prayer:
God if there's hope..if you hear me...if you're really there" I need PROOF ! So I sat and thought more...then in a somewhat angry way, I looked up at the night sky at all those stars and stared for awhile...and I said to God....OK, if you're really there and you care, then send me a SHOOTING STAR to see in this sky, right here and right now...if I see one, and a brilliant one..right before my eyes..I'll KNOW for a fact you are there and that you care!
IN AN INSTANT, I SAW THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SHOOTING STAR FLASH ACROSS THE SKY !!!
I Believe without doubt now !!Praise God !
2007-03-13 22:58:14 · answer #8 · answered by EvelynMine 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
OK.
I put it to you that there is a teapot between Jupiter and Saturn. The teapot is so small that it can't be seen or detected by any scientific instruments. Do you believe me until somebody proves me wrong (which is impossible)?
Or do you think I have to prove it?
This is the logical argument against god.
Of course to scientifically disprove god's existence is impossible as he is not properly defined.
We can only say that its extremely improbable.
2007-03-13 22:36:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Can you also tell whoever made that science?Science is nature and nature is as strange as God the supreme.Bring anything in this arguement and you will find God's creation can not be disapproved.How about egg and chicken theory?Which came first?Chicken or egg?THis is a quagamire we can not easily get out of without bringing in creation and that is where we can not leave out God.The book of Genesis in the old testament is our witness in the whole saga and it has always been my guidance.Read it and your problems and abuses will be put into shame.
2007-03-13 22:53:13 · answer #10 · answered by mukwathagicu 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋