2007-03-13 14:15:35 · 25 answers · asked by ? 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The reason that the "fundies" (I assume that your last responder meant Christian) are "squirming" with this question is because the answer is going to sound distasteful, not because we do not have one.
I find it distressing that it appears that no Jewish people responded to your question. I would have like to hear their perspective, especially from a Rabbi, since I am sure that this question comes up all of the time.
This response is not going to be very politically correct, and it might offend some people, but I will say it anyway. This explanation is a paraphrase of a statement that I heard from an Evangelical pastor of a large church in the D.C. area who had converted from Judaism to Christianity during his college years.
It appears that God did not save the Jews immediately from the concentration camps because they had rejected God's Messiah and killed him. So God had no moral obligation to answer their prayers (Matthew 23:29-39; Matthew 27:24-25). This does not mean that either God or I somehow condone what the Nazis did, but it seems obvious that if you do not believe in God, nor follow him, then why do you expect him to come running, eager to help you, during your time of trouble? Both the Hebrew scriptures (Old Testament) and the Christian writings (New Testament) make it clear that God has no obligation to hear the prayers of sinners; God can choose to do so, but he doesn't have to.
Of course, there are other examples in the Bible where good people suffered in order to purify them and make them more spiritually mature, so one cannot automatically assume that all suffering is caused by deliberate sin
God also scourges those he loves to make them better people (Hebrews 12:6), so it is dangerous to assume too much about a people that we never met personally, or a situation that we were not there to see. The Allied troops did eventually open the gates of the concentration camps, and gave the Jews their own nation (something that would have never happened, perhaps, if there had been no tragedy of the Holocaust).
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I assume that you were trying to start a religious war with this one, since you must have heard this explanation before. It looks like you are trying to get Christians to say something that you can twist around to make it sound like we admired Hitler.
2007-03-14 00:51:05 · answer #1 · answered by Randy G 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In the time of Moses, between the first plague and the last plague, over two years passed. You can see this by the different crops listed as being destroyed. During that time, Jews were being killed, babies slaughtered, people oppressed and abused. God gave the pharaoh repeated chances to free the people, and he would not. So it finally took a miracle to bring them out. It did not happen immediately and cost many lives. But they were freed.
We do not know how many times God gave Hitler opportunities to repent. But he never did. Until finally God had to free the Jews using the American GIs. It did not happen immediately and cost many lives. But they were freed.
2007-03-13 21:34:09 · answer #2 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Good Point, God the Father, in heaven did not part the reed sea so the Hebrews could escape, Satan did.
Satan could not allow the Hebrews go into the Holy Place (the flowing snow waters) or they would be saved by Lord God (Jesus). Satan parted the waters so the Hebrews could go on the other side of the Gulf, (hell) the desert of sin.
Sinai means "of Sin" Satan used Moses where he could not use Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. This is why Lord God did not include Moses in his famos saying "I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Lord God did not say he was the God of Moses because he wasn't.
Jesus said "as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, we all know who the serpent is, but you let the physical churches deceive you. The Physical churches serve mammon (Money) Jesus said sell all that you have and give it to the poor.
IChornicles 17:3 the Word of God state thou shall not build me a house (church) to dwell in. The word of God is Jesus
Jesus said Moses gave you not that bread from heaven.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.
Most of you who have read the bible, find it hard to understand God for all the murdering that Moses did, but because you listen to false prophets you allowed yourself to be deceived,
Look carefully at the 3 temptations of Christ.
2007-03-13 21:40:49 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
He did. In the form of American GIs.
The prophecies all the way through the Old Testament are that the Jews would be scattered and then reclaimed and gathered. The gathering is well under way and the Jews are returning to their Promised Land, as was prophesied. They are more powerful, strong and independant than they have ever been in their 4000 year history, due, in part to the suffering they have endured over the ages. They will not be driven out again.
BTW, I'm not a Jew.
2007-03-13 21:24:47 · answer #4 · answered by Fotomama 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
...The Lord is holy, righteous, all-knowing, and perfect, and never makes a mistake, and anything He decides or allows will always render Him right and holy. None of us can pretend to know the mind of God, but He, the Infinite God, is not subject to the babblings and whiny complaints of finite man, who thinks he can put God on trial.
...Mankind is cruel, corrupt, and depraved, and makes a lot of bad decisions. If men were not allowed to do this, would you then complain that someone had tampered with their "free will"? And BTW, how can you believe that man's will was untouched by the fall - it was, and it was devasting, read on:
...Romans 3:10-12 says this:
...10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;
...11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.
...12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."
...13 "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive. The venom of asps is under their lips."
...14 "Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness."
...15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
...16 in their paths are ruin and misery,
...17 and the way of peace they have not known."
...18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
...Apart from God's saving grace, this is how man is. He is spiritually dead, a spiritual corpse, and entirely helpless to free himself.
...Praise God for His wonderful salvation. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
...Whosoever will, may come.
2007-03-13 21:33:05 · answer #5 · answered by carson123 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Parting the Red Sea was an important component of God's Plan. As was the suffering of the Jews which made the rebirth of the nation of Israel possible.
2007-03-13 21:32:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Perhaps it was for the same reason that He allowed Nero to coat Christians with tar and burn them like candles in his garden or allowed other Roman emperors to feed Christians to the lions.
The faithful in Christ at least are willing to lay down their lives as a testimony for Jesus. Hopefully the Jewish people had some dispensation from God because otherwise it was because they had rejected his Son and throughout the Bible you see God punishing his people for rebelling against Him.
2007-03-13 21:30:13 · answer #7 · answered by Martin S 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Great question, with such a sad consequences. Hitler was able to kill 6,000,000 Jews because they went peacefully to the gas chambers thinking that God would save them.
But God doesn't save anyone. God doesn't exist.
A popular excuse used by apologists is that if God intervened in our every day life it would create utter chaos. Somehow I think 6 million people being gassed and burned would created a little chaos of its own.
But the truth is you can't believe in God and live in a modern society without making hundreds of rationalizations in all the areas where your religion fails, contradicts itself, and ceases to make sense.
2007-03-13 21:21:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Well, see...dangit they found another one.
Obviously Moses is just a metaphor for 9/11, now get back to those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
2007-03-13 21:19:03 · answer #9 · answered by Jedi 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No one will ever know why God didn't intervene. Do you suppose He was waiting for His children here on earth to come to the aid of their brothers and sisters? He has shown us the way, why don't we step forward and do what He expects of us? Must we always wait for His miracles? How long will it take to learn what He wants and expects from each of us? Are we so selfish that we can think only of ourselves? Hitler was a democratically elected leader. Where did he find so many people to aid and abet his atrocities? Why were there so few of God's children ready to step forward on behalf of others?
As Martin S says below: "The faithful in Christ at least are willing to lay down their lives as a testimony for Jesus." If that's true, why were so few willing to lay down their lives to save four million Jewish adults and two million Jewish children? Why were so few Christians willing to lay down their lives to save millions of disabled, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other "unacceptable" humans? Perhaps Jesus expects us to protect others as well as our own families! Or, maybe not....
Will God come to the aid of those dying in the genocide happening today in Darfur, Sudan? Perhaps God is waiting to see if "His children" will take action or just sit back and wait for His miracles. Surely God expects us to love one another enough to stop genocide!
Perhaps people of today don't understand that those atrocities they see on television are happening to real, live people, not just pictures on the tube.
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2007-03-13 21:21:08 · answer #10 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋