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The fable of the virgin[*] birth always made me queasy. Just as Zeus jumped on hapless girls, the god of the new testement did the same. Rape. Of course alteration was necessary, as normal, healthy sexual intercourse between Joseph & Mary was considered a repeat offense of original sin. But I find the alternative repulsive, and as a woman and a feminist it always angered me.
As someone once said, 'If I'd been the Virgin Mary I have said 'No.' " But rape hardly allowed that option.
Christians, past & present, seem to view immaculate conception necessary. Seems unpleasantly prurient, indeed deviant. How they can not only condone the rape of a young girl by their perfect god
and complacently tell this disgusting, misogynistic myth to their children is beyond me. If anyone ever tells my young niece this trash, my liberal heart will cease to bleed immediatly!


*"virgin" is a mistranslation, changed in the Greek. In the original Hebrew text it means a young woman, a maiden

. When the Jews pointed out this corruption the Greeks took no heed, made no correction. The Catholic Church deliberately stuck to and taught this falsity.

Does this make anyone else nauseated?
(I am speaking of this as myth.)

2007-03-13 12:19:55 · 5 answers · asked by Cynthia_Secular_n_SillyHatState 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"twist the truth to support their biases and false doctrine" Doctine is synonymous w/ dogma. As I reject dogma, this is nonsensical riposte.
"The 70's weren't very good to you were they?" :D What wit!
"Since I've always considered the Greek and Roman myths fiction.." Huh? Meaning? You say "myth," Other religions regard yr bible as myth."if you go read the Gospel.." I have. Also, The Illiad. Quoting yr holy book leads to cirdular arguments. Not an answer.
"In Latin, the word "fiat" is used, meaning "let it be." And, in the Greek NT Jesus is calledThe Son of Humanity, *not* the Son of Man. Yet fundie Christians persist in saying the latter. As they're adamantly opposed to women preaching, it serves them well."If you...don't know the difference between rape and immaculate conception, then there's really nothing anyone can say to you which you would comprehend"Mary's was the IC. Quoting yr scripture-pointless. Having clobberd a rapist senseless,I'm quite familiar, ty.

2007-03-16 15:32:21 · update #1

I unknowingly posted this twice. My apologies. Was using a rent-a-wreck and have made many mistakes on the internet w/ it.
Having posted twice, however inadverdently, I can't choose a best answer. I'm very unfamiliar w/ this forum but I suppose the right thing would be to delete this one (?). My apologoes to those who answered, whatever our differences.

PS: In mentioning the IC I wasn't referring to the birth of Jesus. The IC pertains to the "virgin" mary.

2007-03-16 15:42:18 · update #2

5 answers

The only thing that nauseates me is the way that some people twist the truth to support their biases and false doctrine.

The Blessed Virgin had the option of turning down God's request that she bear the Son of God. Her response was to give her immediate consent, despite the risks:

Luk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

And later on, when Mary was greeted as "the Mother of my Lord" by her cousin, Elizabeth, her immediate response was to praise God:

Luk 1:46-48 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

That is not what a woman who has been raped would say, even if the pure and holy God of Israel was capable of such a thing. . .and He is most certainly NOT.

And then there's the fact that if Jesus had not been born of a virgin, then He would have been tainted with original sin. That would have nullified His role as the perfect sacrifice for sin. He was born of a virgin mother who conceived Him through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Because He was free from the slightest stain of sin, He became the spotless Lamb sacrificed before the beginning of time.

2007-03-13 12:30:50 · answer #1 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 1 0

wow! in the starting up, sorry to assert that...yet u are making a huge confusion.... Zeus isn't some thing like God! in the starting up: Zeus doesn`t exists! 2d of all, what has to do the feminist opinion with the stainless theory??? Thirdly, u don`t have the right to pick for others! U can advice...yet no longer pick for someone! protection doesn`t ability forbidding the information... very last... have u ever been raped? Or have u even studied old Greek, alongside with Aramaic language and so on? Have u been there, at the same time as Mary received the information about her being pregnant? If the answer is not any... close up! And enable her settle on for her own! and that i'm a women human beings besides! in spite of the undeniable fact that no longer a feminist

2016-12-01 23:10:14 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Since I've always considered the Greek and Roman myths fiction, I never really thought about it. And now that I think about it, I can see why I don't really care much for them.

As for Mary, mother of Jesus, if you go read the Gospel according to Luke, you will discover that she accepted what God said. Her response was something like "I am the handmaiden of the Lord; let it be done to me as you have said." In Latin, the word "fiat" is used, meaning "let it be."

So no rape here; just an open consent to God.

2007-03-13 12:35:21 · answer #3 · answered by Church Music Girl 6 · 1 0

If you honestly don't know the difference between the violent act of rape and immaculate conception, then there's really nothing anyone can say to you which you would comprehend.

2007-03-13 12:31:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The 70's weren't very good to you were they?

2007-03-13 12:33:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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