2007-03-13 06:28:12 · 13 answers · asked by kaderman37 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Yes, the Trinitarian doctrine is clearly discernable from the biblical scriptures.
God Is Three Persons. The fact that God is three persons means that the Father is not the Son; they are distinct persons. It also means that the Father is not the Holy Spirit, but that they are distinct persons. And it means that the Son is not the Holy Spirit. In addition to the fact that all three persons are distinct, the abundant testimony of Scripture is that each person is fully God as well. Scripture is abundantly clear that there is one and only one God. The three different persons of the Trinity are one not only in purpose and in agreement on what they think, but they are one in essence, one in their essential nature. In other words, God is only one being. There are not three Gods. There is only one God.
The duality of Christ's nature, human and divine, cannot be fully and definitively answered. If we could, we would possess divine minds ourselves. That said, we theologians have made progress at trying to understand the concepts of the Trinity of God and God the Son's role in that Trinitarian doctrine. There are three persons in the Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one true, eternal God, the same in substance, equal in power and glory; although distinguished by their personal properties. Jesus clearly stated his divinity in
Joh 8:58: Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
Or
Mar 14:61 But he remained silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?"
Mar 14:62 And Jesus said, "I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."
Mar 14:63 And the high priest tore his garments and said, "What further witnesses do we need?
Mar 14:64 You have heard his blasphemy. What is your decision?" And they all condemned him as deserving death.
As you can see, the high priest fully understood that Jesus was claiming that He was in fact God. Some knowledge of the original Greek is warranted here, particularly the term, "Son the blessed". But there is no doubt that Christ was claiming to be God. The Jews hearing his claim understood exactly what He was saying and planned to stone Him.
In short, Jesus’ human nature could be tempted. He thirsted, hungered, and at times was full of righteous anger. Yet He never sinned. If He did, we are all lost and God is not God. Christ also was God with all of God's attributes, and these two natures existed in a hypostatic (fundamental state) union.
I doubt I can improve upon the discussion of Christ's dual nature that is found at http://www.carm.org/doctrine/2natures.htm
See also the following bible verses for…
One God and Only One God: Isaiah 44:6-8; Deuteronomy 4:35, 39; Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29; Romans 3:30; Ephesians 4:5-7; 1 Timothy 2:5; James 2:19
Trinity doctrine: Isaiah 9:6; Luke 24:52; John 1:1-3; John 10:30; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:3
I suggest you start there to dig deeper into this topic using hermeneutics and looking at the entire bible messages. Here is where I recommend you begin: http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm
JW's like to quote the Catholic encyclopedia denouncing the Trinity. But they only quote abstracts of the encyclopedia. See: http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Catholic.htm
2007-03-13 06:34:09 · answer #1 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
See, Trinitarians are puzzled relating to the courting between Jesus and God, that's why they in no way concentration on the Holy Spirit. God isn't the author of misunderstanding. Trinity is a complicated doctrine. The Isaiah fifty 5:8-9 argument presented by making use of the Trinitarians is definitely refuted by making use of a million Corinthians 2:11. in the event that they knew the Holy Spirit, they might understand that God is a God of Oneness, no longer a God of Trinity.
2016-10-18 07:03:13 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
no i don't.
i've tried to understand this. i really have. but each time i come out feeling stupid and with more questions that i went in with.
so there are 3 things to blv in. which one is superior?isn't the holy ghost supposed to be the father?
i hear the word 'father' and automatically i think greater but i never here about him except 'our father who is in heaven' then it all goes back to the son. why? where does the son get his abilities from? either mother or father, right?? as the mother ain't mentioned the dad must be stronger right? so why not just praise the father and still think of the son as great but not as great as the father.
if you say the son got his abilities from his own i'd ask then why just not chuck the other two and concentrate on him. but then that;s what they do and still they go on about the trinity. what's the point??????
some of the questions are really lame i know but everytime i try to understand the trinity this is how i get: a bubbling idiot.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
who created it all? the father because he was there first or the holy ghost? if the father is the creator then where's the son come in?surely the creator is greater because there's be nothing with out him.
it just feels like labeling GOD as father and son we're just bringing Him down to our level. We're trying to describe God in human terms so that we might understand Him better. Just like ppl try to deny God by stating that He should obey physical laws. It's wrong in my opinion. God shouldn't be lowered to our levels. We can't raise to His level.
All we can do is praise and glorify the one true God.
2007-03-13 07:06:02 · answer #3 · answered by huda 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No I don't. (Watch the thumbs go down)!
IF THE Trinity were true, it should be clearly and consistently presented in the Bible. Why? Because, as the apostles affirmed, the Bible is God's revelation of himself to mankind. And since we need to know God to worship him acceptably, the Bible should be clear in telling us just who he is.
A PROTESTANT publication states: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity "is not . . . directly and immediately [the] word of God."—New Catholic Encyclopedia.
The Catholic Encyclopedia also comments: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180. . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian."
However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic work Trinitas—A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. Then it cautions: "But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology."
2007-03-13 06:32:33 · answer #4 · answered by ♥LadyC♥ 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I can get behind the understanding of our existence on earth is a combination of God (father), our own soul (holy spirit) and our human form (son) - but I can't get behind the whole personification of God and someone else in charge of or judging my life. I think of God more as a Universal Energy powering this existence and I can accept a trinity on those terms. What do you say to that?
Peace!
2007-03-13 06:32:22 · answer #5 · answered by carole 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe in the Trinity.
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...
2007-03-13 06:31:25 · answer #6 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My belief in the trinity is simply this, Father=creator-Son=mankind-Ghost=spirituality, and as a catholic I know in my own heart that this is the real way God wants us all to understand, and pray in that manner.
2007-03-13 06:47:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
father son and holy ghost ... i guess there is place for women anywhere or they are considered important...
guess i don't believe in the trinity ..
2007-03-13 06:31:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Just the Unity. Too much a stretch to separate reality.
2007-03-13 06:31:41 · answer #9 · answered by Rae 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sure I do. I have had it ingrained into my brain. Otherwise, what was the good of all that CCD?
Oh yea, so I could get my confirmation. Oh well, yeah, the trin is there.
2007-03-13 06:35:59 · answer #10 · answered by rangerbaldwin 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋