so I know if you are truely a pk you have gone through some kind of hurt from the church but you have to go on with a smile on your face cause we have to look like we have it all together. Or how bout when you make a mistake everyone is talking about it because everyone is watching. I recently read a book called "I have to be perfect" & that helped a lil bit but I didnt know if you all had any other ideas. Its just over the past year Ive been so hurt by "christians" and Ive become a lil bitter. Im slowly getting over it but Im not going to let them prevent me from my God. He isnt the one doing this is some selected people who want power & attention . Ive also become to the point where I have become obsessed what others think about me, growing up with everyone talking about your every move, literally obsessed.Paraniod whos going to see what when I go out cause everytime I turn around I see someone. Ive made some mistakes this year & people talk, Im just ready to let go & stop obsessing.
2007-03-13 05:44:32 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I ran out of room...
does anyone know any retreats or books or something to help?
you mighht think Im over reacting or whatever but if your a pk you understand!
please help me!
2007-03-13 05:45:35 · update #1
I also want to add that my dad doesnt talk about me in his sermons...We just planted a new church and I am attending there and there is no hypocrites there but I still have to deal with the people from the other place...thats what Im referring too. My dad doesnt miss dinner cause hes at meetings or counseling hes there for me.
I love my family, Im not saying anything against them, Im not even meaning to talk bad I just wanted help!lol
2007-03-13 06:12:03 · update #2
Hi there,
Today s religion s , seem to spread more deadly judgement then healing, then any other hyprocrites in the world.
What I say, I do not to offend religions.
I believe, an author that you would find healing from, is Dr. Wayne Dyer . He has written many books and done many lecture s.
I suggest you grab his books from the library and I strongly suggest, you get his dvd's or video's.
Watching and hearing him speak, reaches your heart.
Also, somthing else, know that Jesus himself, said "I am the way and the light" Not "the bible is the way, and the church is the light".
Even HE, did not go to church in his day. Instead he lived his life through KNOWING that God Loves him.
Faith, is Knowing God loves You. And the one who shows the strong faith, walks alone , down a path away from the crowd .
I do not follow a religion, nor do I go to church. Yet my knowledge that God loves me, is stronger then even that of the most loyal church follower.
A man on the street, whom is sitting in a park and reading a book in a clear spring morning, and doesn t follow a crowd to church, has More Faith Then a pastor.
These people, whom stay away from the Hyprocrites, (for hyprocrites will go to church, in fear that others in the church shall think differnt of them). Anyhow, these people whom stay away from the hyprocrites, and walk there Own path, in the direction of there own heart. KNOWS that God loves them. No doubt exists within there mind. Where there is love, fear is cast out.
I suggest to you, that you may walk in the parks and near the lakes, and observe the peace that God has placed around nature. And you Shall feel the Love of God. This is the path to Jesus. Wether other s admit it or not.
With no hyprocrite s judgement, and only God s animals and nature to comfort you, You will feel Love of God, more louder and warmer then You EVER could in the home of a hyprocrite .
Yes, other s judge you for this, yet so too, did Jesus say that those who will follow Him, shall be judged by the hyprocrites just as so.
Dear One, wether you choose to believe me or not, or take my suggestion or not, is up to you.
knock and the door shall be opened, seek and you shall find.
"if a son ask s a father for food, who shall give him a snake"
most hyprocrite s , go to churches built by man and are run by man. these men give snakes , including pastor s giving snakes to there kids. For the pastor s care more for there image to the hyprocrites then to God. Whom would rather hug a child and show them light, instead of throwing the child in darkness for other s in darkness.
take care dear one.
2007-03-13 06:05:52 · answer #1 · answered by Aaron M 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
First, I am a pastor & my wife is a pastor's kid. Second, we have three kids. Third, this is a public forum & I prefer discussing this "in-house". There are way too many "swine" on this site. Send me an email & I will have a dialog with you.
To encourage you:
1. People have tried to use the PK stuff on my kids, I go on the attack at that point. I will adimately defend my kids right to be normal.
2. Generally, people have been very supportive of my wife, when she grew up & our kids.
3. Make your faith between you and the Lord. Most of these people who do this to you are not what I would call mature believers (seeing that a mature believer is first a loving person). Hopefully in your church you have a couple of godly people, who are loving.
4. I had a dream once that I was speaking at Moody Bible Institute, finished and no one clapped...I was discouraged. Then a man in the upper left balcony stood up and clapped. I realized it was Jesus.
email me if you want.
Recon
2007-03-13 05:56:09 · answer #2 · answered by Jeff- <3 God <3 people 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
It has been called "Living in a glass house." A place where you dress proper, watch your manners, never let your hair down and pay for your sins while they relish yours.
Christians were not meant to live in this type of environment; but then neither were we called to enjoy of things of the world; as a side order or for a season.
The smaller the community the worse it may be.
What you feel now is just part of the pressure. You won't know how deep this goes until you are free; and you Must get free.
I had the opportunity to get out of Dodge so to speak. Just being in a big city where no one knew me was a relief you could not imagine. I was neither a smoker or a drinker, at the time.
Before that I used to spend all my time camping, hiking or hunting and put in untold hours on football, baseball, tennis, golf, and had various income jobs from mid-school on. All this on top of Sunday School, choir, piano lessons, homework and club projects at school. Busy is great, but it don't help your problem. Yuh with me?
There is a big difference between "just doing what you want" and being able to feel who you are and what you are about. There are 100 ways to crash and burn but only a few simple things to do if you want to fly and stay aloft.
You have no idea how much my heart relates to what you are going through. To put it mildly, PKs either turn out pretty darn decent or they turn out terrible sorry. Following is three sermons for you to read and live with a week or two. Don't let anything keep from this reading and don't let your situation drive you to smoking or to drink. I've been in the pig pen too, don't go there.
There three sermons literally changed my life. They were dropped off to my house some years ago by a stranger. Never heard of this preacher, but these sermons explained most every problem I ever went through as a PK and, in a quiet room, set me in the right direction and brought the baptism of the holy ghost to my heart.
The first sermon goes to this PK problem. It is called "Believers, Make Believers and Unbelievers." by William Branham. This showed me that while I "thought" I was a believer, and had been brought up to be a believer, I was only living as a subscriber!
Once you are sure of your position you will begin to see the true position of those around you. There are probably quite a few people who care and know what you are going through. Right now it is hard for you to "see" them. This won't take the pressure off but it will help so very much.
The second sermon is called "God Hiding in Simplicity" I won't speak of it. Read it. The third, "Marriage & Divorce" covers personal relationships.
I wish I'd seen a few of these things when I was about 16. Can't say it would have changed stuff, but I can say this: What do you think is worse?--- Knowing something is wrong and doing it anyway? Or trying to do what someone else told you was right and failing?
I'll close with this: Smoking, sex, drinking, drugs, and many other things people do are not sins. They are taking something God made and perverting it, or its use, as the result of sin in our nature. Smoking is not a sin, it is a symptom, a result and part of the wages of sin. You won't be able to drop cigs or nothing else until you see the problem and die to your own efforts.
We smoke because we are sinners. Sin is unbelief and nothing more. Personal pressure, like you have, and work pressure along with other things, will drive smoking into an addiction for Christians as strong as heroin.
If you have any trouble finding the sermons I will get them for you. They are published, on tape and on MP3 and other media. If you look up William Marrion Branham on the Webb you will find a real can of worms as his ministry is the most hidden and controversial of the 20th century. Read 'em anyway.
Also read "The Normal Christian Life" by Watchman Nee. This is available in most Christian book stores.
The Lord Jesus Christ bless you and keep you.
2007-03-13 09:23:12 · answer #3 · answered by Tommy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am a PK too. I was in high school and one of my fathers friends come to wear worked and saw my smoking. The whole church knew about before I finished my shift. Then next Sunday my fathers sermon was about temptations and over coming them. I got so mad and I knew everyone was talking about me, I just got up and left. It took a long time before I felt like I could go to church with out all the laughing and talking. The thing that helped my the most was read the bible. Also, I noticed that I am not the only one at church that sins. Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for.
2007-03-13 05:57:52 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think that pk's are judged more harshly than any other kids.... cuz they 'need to set a good example' or they will reflect badly on their parent...
My feeling is that we are all sinners... we all fall short... and if 'my behavior' is causing people to gossip and spread rumors and judge me... then I say, let them cast the first stone if they themselves are sinless!
Pastors' wives are in the same boat... they are judged based on things like appearance, actions, being someplace, or heaven forbid, missing something they SHOULD have attended, what they wear... the list goes on.
Praying that you can release the oppression pushed on you because of all those who sit in judgement.. that you can just focus on God and forget earthly struggles in that area... it is tough!
2007-03-13 05:57:08 · answer #5 · answered by livinintheword † 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are right in what you believe. Don't let their judgemental behavior keep you from God. Their attitude towards you is in no way indicative of his love for you or your relationship w/ Him. All of my nephews and neices are preacher's kids so in a way I can understand where you are coming from..I don't know any books to help you but I can tell you that God has abundant grace for your situation and you will be greatly rewarded. He knew who your parents would be so continue to look to Him..as you already are doing. God bless you. You are precious to the Lord.
2007-03-13 05:52:07 · answer #6 · answered by 1sweet lady 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
My hubby is a pk. I understand what you mean. You are held to a higher standard than others. I would encourage you to remember that with every Christian we have to deal with their humanity. Take what's of God and throw away the rest. We have the ability to give of ourselves instead of what God wants us to give and the consequences being what you've described. John Bevere has a book called "The Bait of Satan" and it's about offenses. It is an AWESOME book for any Christian whether you think you are or aren't offended. He also has a book called "Breaking Intimidation". I love all of his and his wife's books! I hope you are able to overcome your bitterness. It's really not baggage that you want.
2007-03-13 05:54:18 · answer #7 · answered by Its Me 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
WE'RE WHALERS ON THE MOON
We carry a harpoon
BUT THERE AIN'T NO WHALES SO WE TOLD OUR TALES
Now we sing our whaling tune.
You're right. I used to go to Rock of Revelation, or as I call it, a holy rolly church. I love my God and he loves me back. It's just, sometimes churches can offend people because they're holier-than-thou. The youth leader found out I liked heavy metal, and I felt like he was obsessing over it, watching my every move to see if I'd spout a Satanic verse from a Black Sabbath song.
You're right.
2007-03-13 05:52:53 · answer #8 · answered by GiR 2.0 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
In your case, isn't God the only one watching that matters?
Just remember that people who have to judge others and point out their flaws live very sad, negative, unenjoyable lives. We hate in others what we hate in ourselves, so any comment they make is just a reflection of themselves.
2007-03-13 05:51:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Just remember that pretending wont do any good a false simle is not the best just be yourself make sure you know who you are and what you are and remember its not important how people see you and what they think, what important is that the way God looks at you. inner happienes is way beeter than pretended happienes
2007-03-13 05:56:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋