Why will you accept intelligent design but not an Intelligent Designer?

Question

Our bodies' ability to heal, our minds, the stars in alignment, the water cycle are all evidence of a Creator. You don't question Picasso or who made the Pyramids or who built the Brooklyn Bridge so why do you refuse to accept that we, the Earth, the Universe, et, al, are made by Creator/Designer? So what, did all of this come about by a big bang? What caused the Big Bang? The murky soup you crawled up from and slithered until you became an upright walking caveman, who or what created that? The Universe is in such order that you can't just shoot a spaceshuttle off into the air. Why? You need a window. Otherwise, you might hit the moon or some star. Come on, you gotta gimme something better than that guys!

For those not familiar with science, the water cycle is just that, a cycle. Clouds fill with rain droplets, they fall to the Earth as rain/dew, moisture rises back to the clouds and falls again as rain.

If the universe didn't align and wasn't in some controlled format, astronauts would not be able to go into space or return to Earth. They would run smack into stars.

I don't think my question should be chided as silly. If a man is a brilliant actor, athelete, artist, doctor or musician, most everyone applauds. Why can't God be considered brilliant? The flaws that exist are because of man. If a designer of an Aston Martin hands you the keys, should he be held responsible because you get drunk and crash into a bus and kill yourself while maiming and injuring others?

I figured it out. Acceptance of an Intelligent Designer would make a person be responsible for their life and that individual couldn't blame their poor choices on anyone else but themselves.

Answer 1

I accept intelligent design!

Answer 2

Truth comes from within and not necessarily from without, so in the end you are what you believe. If it weren't for a couple of SERIOUS life-altering experiences I've had, I would have a hard time being sure of anything all the same..

I am a devout believer in a central creator now. Not to mention that there are other dimenions right in front of our eyes....this I can attest to. And no I am not some gullible-idiot. I am a very lucky 20 yr. who gets to study with the best in the world....

Ask yourselves this Jim and Kalulwa, what if GOD didn't create the Earth, what if we did? That is why I firmly reject the idea of "reality"...most buddhists will tell that too. . Thought and definite form are an illusion. (which includes the big bang).This is because we perceive things in our own right instead of how they really are. For example, scientists have shown that through the principle or superposition, electrons traveling back in time can overlap and appear as one. Over the several billion year-history, starting with one electron this process would unfold into the universe we see today. Here it gets a little tricky so bear with me: going one way towards negativity infinity, an electron can be split into quarks, muons and I know there's atleast six more levels. I forget their names at the moment. By dividing up particles into an infinity, it is foreseen that we will never reach an undividable unit. We can all agree that we can't have positive infinity without negative infinity, so there is only ONE TRUE system, put another way, the only fundamental particle is GOD. Maybe one day scientists will prove that strings somehow existed before the big bang. But following my example, we will never know why there is something rather than nothing. We may be able to prove why we will never know, but knowing will require that we create an entire new system. Either GOD was intelligent in the first place or we would have the ability to grow more intelligent than HE is. Which do you think is more likely?

I could go and on about how everything essentially reduces to either one (GOD) or zero (illusion). I agree that complexity most definetly can arise from simplicity. But it is NOT true that an intelligent designer would have to be preceded by another intelligence. Consider that in a vacuum (or zero-point energy field, take your pick), an electron curls back in on it-self before it has a chance to differentiate. No time. No nothing. The electron is but a mere ghostly image of the virtual field out of which it formed. In a sense, there is NO natural law. There is NO us. There is NOTHING to prove or disprove. While you say we need to look to natural law to ascertain whether 'GOD did it,' I say there is no question to be asked in the first place. I hope this sheds some light on your idea Jim.

Everthing I have mentioned above has lead up this point. As far as there being an intelligent Designer, by taking surposition one step further you can say that there is no difference between 'here' and 'there.' DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? Every bit of information even if it occurs billions of light-years away is instantly available to any other part. Each element in a system is endowed with the same qualities as the macrocosm. Think of it as whole makes up the parts instead of parts make up the whole. How is that not indicative of a super-massive or universal being? And to say that this 'presence' does not require an observer to simply "create." on it's own accord. Okay, so this may all sound like rocket-science but the basic principle is there.. Quite simply, as stated above GOD would have to be intelligent because we are intelligent. You can only have one level of intelligence in existence or you can have none ::shock:::

Proof: There is a number Ω which is the largest possible number imaginable. If you registered Ω + 1 then this breaks the "chain of existence" and we have to start over on into infinity. Either that, or we start with zero in the first place.

Answer 3

I thought this was a good question until I read all of it..
One of your own answers to this question is that by accepting an "Intelligent Designer", people can no longer blame others for their actions. However, I think this is COMPLETELY and totally the opposite of how I see it. In my opinion, you CAN blame someone--the Creator--for things that happen, if you believe in him.

I'm one of those poeple that accepts intelligent design--and i DO accept an Intelligent Designer. Isn't that the whole point? Believing in God, but knowing that evolution exists as well? So i don't really see what your question is. Because you do have to believe in an intelligent designer to believe in intelligent design, as opposed to creationism or just evolution.

I think you should be directing this question more towards atheists.. but then again, they don't believe in intelligent design in the first place.

Answer 4

Because then the Intelligent Designer would need an even more Intelligent Designer to have created it.

I.D. tries to claim that anything that is irreducibly complex requires a designer. But by definition, God would be irreducibly complex.

It is an established fact that complexity can arise out of simplicity. Simple, natural laws are all that is necessary to explain nearly everything we know about the universe. It is true there are things we don't know. But that is not proof of a god, and to stop searching for natural answers and instead claim "God did it, because he is magic an all powerful" is reverting to superstitious thinking.

Answer 5

If the cosmos was intelligently designed, then in order to justify natural disasters and accidental death, free will must be a necessity, the freedom to choose to do evil, so why would something be intelligently designed to fail?

On the other hand, if you say that reality is designed perfectly, then there is no room for free will at all.

So with intelligent design you have a necessity for free will and a necessity for no free will.

Rather than intelligent design, it is an intelligent will that governs all things, and not an inherent property of a single design, but multiple designs that come about through the reflection of the one source of life.

Answer 6

No, those things are the evidence of nature. Actually you need a window so you can hit the moon. It's too far away to be hit by accident. You can take off anytime to orbit the earth. And hitting the stars is still a distance dream!
We don't know what caused the Big Bang, Scientists are still looking for that answer. Cool thing about scientists, that. They don't say God did it!" They say "Let's find out!"

Answer 7

Because such a being with the extent of intelligence to create this world, the cosmos and all its complexities would know better than to create this world or moreso the human element as it is. It just makes no sense. Why make something so magnificent with such inbuilt weaknesses? doesn't sound that intelligent to me.

Answer 8

sure enough, this is earth will continue to evolve from perfection to distraction. coz its not only the effect of sin..but also the effect of man's "technologies".

that's why what most people can see now are the unintelligent designs. fortunately, there are still lots of evidences that these earth was created intelligently by an Intelligent Being.

Answer 9

And again - more evidence that religion preys upon rational thought.

And again, the four basic questions:

I can't understand the big bang, so how can you accept it?
I can't understand the forming of planets, so how can you accept it?
I can't understand abiogenesis, so how can you accept it?
I can't understand evolution, so how can you accept it?

Also: are you kidding? Spacecrafts are launched at certain times so that they can reach their targets. With infinite fuel and time it wouldn't be a problem.

Do you realize the nearest star is about FOUR LIGHT YEARS AWAY?

Answer 10

I accept intelligent design and an Intelligent Designer. I just don't accept a conception of who that designer is. In other words, I reject revealed religion. What the designer wants us to know about him/her can be found in the genuine creation. Revealed religions are creations of men.