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Of the following verses one comes from the Bible, one comes from the Qur'an. Mostly to Christians, but to Muslims as well, can you explain why you assert that the other religion is violent (and often times Christians complain about the Qur'an killing non-believers) yet your own book holds the same violent ideas? How do you reconcile this belief if your own religion is the same way?

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers (Qur'an)

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

2007-03-12 17:23:24 · 10 answers · asked by eastchic2001 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Why do you cite where the bible verse is from and not the quran verse?

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وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأَخْرِجُوهُم مِّنْ حَيْثُ أَخْرَجُوكُمْ وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ وَلاَ تُقَاتِلُوهُمْ عِندَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ حَتَّى يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ فَإِن قَاتَلُوكُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ كَذَلِكَ جَزَاء الْكَافِرِينَ {191}
[Shakir 2:191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:191]
The order is to kill the enemy (against whom fighting has been enjoined) wherever they are found, whilst the war goes on. It does not refer to unbelievers in general.

"And drive them out from where they drove you out" refers to Makka, wherein the holy Kabah, the centre of Islam, is located, because it belonged to the Muslims but was usurped by the infidels unlawfully.




فَإِنِ انتَهَوْاْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ {192}
[Shakir 2:192] But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:192]
Showing mercy when one has the upper hand is enjoined in this verse. On all occasions, the lover of Allah attempts to draw near Him by taking on the appropriate attribute of Allah. Mercy and forgiveness for the enemies if they desist from fighting has been recommended. No other creed or religion has this provision.

2007-03-12 17:40:10 · answer #1 · answered by DBznut 4 · 0 0

Well the biblical version does not say "Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own". That is just your paraphrase. You didnt even take the time to read the book of Deuteronomy. Back in that time God was directing the laws of the Jewish people. He was setting certain rules for the Jewish people, if they were going to be His people they needed to follow His rules. Nowhere does it say kill everyone with different religious views. These are not anywhere directed towards the Gentiles just yet. The scripture says thy man will be stone for wickedness against God. The people were also make sacrafices to be forgiven of their sins. He was purifying them as a nation, so they could be an example for the Gentiles. If this was the case wouldnt the Jews have killed all the Gentiles when trying to teach them about Jesus and the word of God.?.. Did Jesus ever use physical force to get people to understand His word?.. But you must know that we all deserve stoning as punishment, we sin daily, so we get past these punishments through Jesus and the grace of God.

2007-03-13 00:35:10 · answer #2 · answered by Guru 2 · 1 0

Exellent point and it shows the ignorance involved with both .
the only sensible explanation I can imagine is that neither is of god but the human frailty of man comes through in his writings in which they use the god concept to attempt to make there words an expression of strength . First the bible then the the new plagurized version readapted for muslims .If there is a word of god in there and not just a scam of hipocrisy then may I be struck down by lightning. After all what kind of loving creator endorses killing and slavery or doesn't even know the age of the world...?

2007-03-13 00:35:04 · answer #3 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 0 1

That is NOT what the verse in Deuteronomy says.It was for the Israelites,living under God's command,not a directive to go and kill anyone different to you.
May I also point out that Deuteronomy is part of the Jewish books as well?

2007-03-13 00:29:57 · answer #4 · answered by Serena 5 · 2 0

It's horrible isn't it...I'm Christian...I would never kill a non-believer / Deut 17 is in the Old Test and important to know that God did inplace a penelty for serving another god then Himself...But please remember if you are serving another god other then God through Jesus you are already condemed but I don't know God's plan for that person and might save him/her in their latter years so i would never end that persons life because of not believing but i would simply be compassionate towards that person and let him/her know about God's forgiveness and lovingkindness toward them and tell them what Jesus has accomplished for all of mankind.

2007-03-13 01:18:08 · answer #5 · answered by jgmakeover 1 · 1 0

To correctly understand the Bible, you must read more than one verse. This verse is taken from the Old Covenant. This was God speaking to the Jews in times past. Let us read what Jesus tells us from the New Covenant. "Love your enemies and pray for those who despitefully use you."

Let us compare both religions. Allah sends his followers off to die for him, while God sent His Son, Jesus, to die for us. Make a righteous judgment. Who will you follow?

2007-03-13 00:34:33 · answer #6 · answered by Apostle Jeff 6 · 2 0

Islam is The Religion, preached by Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (Peace and blessings of God on all of them).

Qura'n endorsed the authenticity of Books revealed on Prophet Moses, and Prophet Jesus (pbu them both).
Taurah, and Injeel revealed respectively on Prophet Moses, and Prophet Jesus (pbu both).

In Islam it not the teachings of Allah Almighty to kill any one without any reason. It is one of the biggest sins to kill.

If you reed Qura'n completely you will find, Allah Almighty only commands to fight when other party (opponents or Non believers) is not respecting any pact, declaration, or treaty.
Or Creating problems for peac full Muslims by attacking their lands, or creating other problems to them.

Qura'n asks Muslims to give them warnings and if they do not respond warnings positively then fight until you kill them.
But if some one during fighting wants peace, give them peace and treat them with respect and kindness.

I humbly invite to read Qura'n under guidance of true believer and find your self the truth of Islam.
You will be amazed finding how peace full religion of Prophet Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad is.

http://www.irf.net
http://www.islamreligion.com
http://www.beconvinced.com
http://www.freequran.com

2007-03-13 00:48:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Thekoran was authored by man and written by man.
Bible is the Word of GOD authored by GOD and written by God's prophets.

2007-03-13 00:26:39 · answer #8 · answered by Tribble Macher 6 · 2 2

Now u making us ashamed of ourselves:)
Yes that's true sweetie.

2007-03-13 00:28:53 · answer #9 · answered by ManhattanGirl 5 · 1 2

These verses pertain to judges.

1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. 2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

Here is, I. A law for preserving the honour of God's worship, by providing that no creature that had any blemish should be offered in sacrifice to him, Deuteronomy 17:1. This caveat we have often met with: Thou shalt not sacrifice that which has any blemish, which renders it unsightly, or any evil matter or thing (as the following word night better be rendered), any sickness or weakness, though not discernible at first view; it is an abomination to God. God is the best of beings, and therefore whatsoever he is served with ought to be the best in its kind. And the Old-Testament sacrifices in a special manner must be so, because they were types of Christ, who is a Lamb without blemish or spot (1 Peter 1:19), perfectly pure from all sin and all appearance of it. In the latter times of the Jewish church, when by the captivity in Babylon they were cured of idolatry, yet they were charged with profaneness in the breach of this law, with offering the blind, and the lame, and the sick for sacrifice, Malachi 1:8.

II. A law for the punishing of those that worshipped false gods. It was made a capital crime to seduce others to idolatry (Deuteronomy 13:1-18), here it is made no less to be seduced. If the blind thus mislead the blind, both must fall into the ditch. Thus God would possess them with a dread of that sin, which they must conclude exceedingly sinful when so many sanguinary laws were made against it, and would deter those from it that would not otherwise be persuaded against it; and yet the law, which works death, proved ineffectual. See here,

1. What the crime was against which this law was levelled, serving or worshipping other gods, Deuteronomy 17:3. That which was the most ancient and plausible idolatry is specified, worshipping the sun, moon, and stars; and, if that was so detestable a thing, much more was it so to worship stocks and stones, or the representations of mean and contemptible animals. Of this it is said, (1.) That it is what God had not commanded. He had again and again forbidden it; but it is thus expressed to intimate that, if there had been no more against it, this had been enough (for in the worship of God his institution and appointment must be our rule and warrant), and that God never commanded his worshippers to debase themselves so far as to do homage to their fellow-creatures: had God commanded them to do it, they might justly have complained of it as a reproach and disparagement to them; yet, when he has forbidden it, they will, from a spirit of contradiction, put this indignity upon themselves. (2.) That it is wickedness in the sight of God, Deuteronomy 17:2. Be it ever so industriously concealed, he sees it, and, be it ever so ingeniously palliated, he hates it: it is a sin in itself exceedingly heinous, and the highest affront that can be offered to Almighty God. (3.) That it is a transgression of the covenant. It was on this condition that God took them to be his peculiar people, that they should serve and worship him only as their God, so that if they gave to any other the honour which was due to him alone that covenant was void, and all the benefit of it forfeited. Other sins were transgressions of the command, but this was a transgression of the covenant. It was spiritual adultery, which breaks them marriage bond. (4.) That it is abomination in Israel, Deuteronomy 17:4. Idolatry was bad enough in any, but it was particularly abominable in Israel, a people so blessed with peculiar discoveries of the will and favour of the only true and living God.

2. How it must be tried. Upon information given of it, or any ground of suspicion that any person whatsoever, man or woman, had served other gods, (1.) Enquiry must be made, Deuteronomy 17:4. Though it appears not certain at first, it may afterwards upon search appear so; and, if it can possibly be discovered, it must not be unpunished; if not, yet the very enquiry concerning it would possess the country with a dread of it. (2.) Evidence must be given in, Deuteronomy 17:6. How heinous and dangerous soever the crime is, yet they must not punish any for it, unless there were good proof against them, by two witnesses at least. They must not, under pretence of honouring God, wrong an innocent man. This law, which requires two witnesses in case of life, we had before, Numbers 35:30; it is quoted, Matthew 18:16.

3. What sentence must be passed and executed. So great a punishment as death, so great a death as stoning, must be inflicted on the idolater, whether man or woman, for the infirmity of the weaker sex would be no excuse, Deuteronomy 17:5. The place of execution must be the gate of the city, that the shame might be the greater to the criminal and the warning the more public to all others. The hands of the witnesses, in this as in other cases, must be first upon him, that is, they must cast the first stone at him, thereby avowing their testimony, and solemnly imprecating the guilt of his blood upon themselves if their evidence were false. This custom might be of use to deter men from false-witness bearing. The witnesses are really, and therefore it was required that they should be actually, the death of the malefactor. But they must be followed, and the execution completed, by the hands of all the people, who were thus to testify their detestation of the crime and to put the evil away from among them, as before, Deuteronomy 13:9.

The Authority of the Judges.

2007-03-13 00:34:57 · answer #10 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 0 1

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