Is it simply a coincidence that when prayer was removed from school the statistics for violent death rose?

Question

In and out of the school setting. How often were children shot in school when there was group prayer? How many schools had to have armed guards during that time in which prayer was encouraged?

Barbara, obviously you are entirely stupid. Prayer in school was ALWAYS optional.

Answer 1

It is no coincidence. The more people fight against God the worse the misery on earth will get.
I'm glad you recognize this.

But even more so... The more the family (marriage between a man and women and their children) is attacked and diminished the more arrogant and ignorant the world will become.

I heard about a study on the radio a few days ago. And researchers said that generation Y is so arrogant and self centered in the U.S.(I'm American) that the situation is being set up for wide spread violence to erupt. It's because families are being torn apart by abortions, divorce, acceptance of homosexuality, and carelessness in raising children.

Pride is the down fall of man.

Answer 2

Actually,
perhaps since I'm growing older, I just realize my surroundings more, as opposed to when I was a child and simply didn't see any behavior going on around me, but I've noticed lately an increasingly amount of... parents neglecting their children. Or, them just letting their child do what they want. I'm not putting the blame entirely on the parents, but I do think that's one thing that's contributing to the moral decline in today's standards. I'm always amazed when I see a parent or guardian, simply taking the verbal or physical abuse from their child.

I was at a gas station not too long ago as a matter of fact, where a mother and her child (and when I say 'child', I mean A CHILD, 10 years, maybe even younger) and the mother was telling her child something. Imagine my astonishment, when the child turned on her mother, smacked her on the leg, and said, "Just shut the f*** up already." o.O I mean, are you kidding? Is this what parents are putting up with nowadays? And with spankings being a thing of the past, for fear of others labeling them with child abuse, the parents are either too afraid to punish their child accordingly, or simply indifferent.
So... I don't really relate the violence rate going up as being due to the prayer being removed from school.

Answer 3

Group prayer is unconstitutional. Schools should not be a place to learn religion--that's for church and personal time. If people don't like that, they need to either shut up and accept it or move to some country ruled by religion where they'll fit right in. I think there are some places in Africa and the Middle East that do just that.

If religion, any religion, takes over a school, it cuts down on the freedom of EVERYONE, even those in the religion! Totalitarian regimes aren't good for anyone.

Now, as far as violent crime going up or down based on religion in schools, the trend is based on things OTHER THAN RELIGION. Try poverty, child abuse, drugs, violence in society as a whole.

Try to think for yourself instead of just spouting propaganda you've heard from people who want to spread religion in public places. If you want freedom, you have to give freedom to everybody. This country was founded by people who were trying to escape religious persecution. They demanded religious freedom for all based on their own experiences with totalitarian regimes.

It hasn't always been smooth sailing--prayer in schools was a harmful thing. Remember, the dominance of a religion means that ALL their ideas are dominant! Do you want the civil rights violations of that time to come back? Do you want the discrimination of that time to come back? Do you want the destructive foreign policies of that time to come back? The religion of that time thought all those things were just fine and dandy. I don't want religion that accepts those harmful things.

And also remember that more kids go to school now than ever before. Some kids probably would have been killed by violence if they hadn't gotten killed, say, working in sweatshops or coal mines. Child labor laws are also a good thing that didn't coexist with prayer in school.

Give your delusional nostalgia a kick in the pants. You can't just say, well, prayer is good without looking at all the garbage that comes along with it.

I'll take now over yesterday ANY TIME. I'd NEVER want to live any time but now. Yesterday was NOT BETTER.

The good ol' days are a lie.

Edit: Barbara! Hey! You are NOT stupid! I thought you had a good answer! My mom has this old, old primer from, like, the 1800s, and it's all about Christian propaganda--the prayer totally pervaded English class. Wild. I can't believe how thoroughly the "Christian" (not that it's Christ-like) religion took over schools.

Sounds like projection to me!

Answer 4

Also remember times have changed, there are new violent television shows and video games that brainwash kids everyday.It's not purely a coincidence but I don't see how prayer plays a role.

Answer 5

So in your view, even it is against their beliefs, you would make a child pray to a deity that is not in their belief system or that they do not believe in at all?

The breakdown in society has nothing to do with the useless activity that is prayer; it has to do with the breakdown of the family structure which is from economic and social factors.

Didn't Charles Starkweather go to school when prayer was still in there???

Answer 6

So.....If we brought back prayer to schools, all the problems would go away????? LOL LMAO ROFLMAO

Poor, deluded girl! You show the exact results of brainwashing by the religious community.

I'll bet that Jack the Ripper said his prayers in school!!

Answer 7

Before the 60s, violence in poor neighborhoods wasn't included in statistics.

Is it a coincidence that the most violent country in the developed world, the US is also the most religious?

Answer 8

Oh please! that's ridiculous! you do no longer could desire to worship the Christian God y'recognize! I recommend heavily! they are not telling the youngsters to worship Him! quickly, we is merely no longer allowed to have churches. Then, we is merely no longer allowed to have religious faculties because of the fact we could desire to incorporate all people. Tis sort of stuff quite pisses me off. Freedom of religion (or lack thereof) no longer freedom FROM faith. i think of each and each faith could desire to be dealt with the two. merely no longer compelled on human beings. while it includes prayer at college, i think of each and each new child could desire to wish how they have been taught. The atheist infants could desire to be allowed to do despite for the time of that element as long because it rather is respectful.

Answer 9

actually it was when they took out the punishment from school that kids just took advantage
i remember when we had the belt at school ( and no i do not promote punishment )
but we were so scared to make a wrong move , that it was never really needed
there is no respect , no fear , no need to behave
because they just sue the teachers now and get a good law suit out of it

Answer 10

yep. A person can make all kinds of correlations of that sort. Let me try one off the top of my head; Is it simply a coincidence that when schools were desegregated in the sixties the the level of literacy has been steadily falling and the level of violence rising?