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2007-03-12 06:49:16 · 19 answers · asked by Antares 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Here is an analogy that may explain what Jesus meant when He spoke on different opportunities of the relation between Him, His Father and the Holy Spirit.
Consider the sun and a perfectly polished, pure mirror looking at the sun. The sun represents God, the pure mirror reflecting the rays of the sun the "manifestation of God" in this case Jesus and the rays of the sun coming from the sun and reflected in the mirror the Holy Spirit.
If the mirror says that the sun is in me, it is absolutely correct. But if the mirror says that the sun is mightier that me and has a knowledge that I do not possess it is also correct. Because the mirror is just reflecting the rays of the sun.
If the mirror says that who has seen me has seen the sun, it is also correct because the sun is reflected inside the mirror. However the sun is not physically inside the mirror.
If you look at all the passages where Jesus mentions His relation to the Father and the Holy Spirit you will find that this analogy stands true. Best of all it is not necessary to make a dogma to explain it.

The reason Christians adopted the dogma, around year 325, was that the controversy between those who believed Jesus was God and those who did not got so out of hand and violence so terrible that something had to be done. This dogma was made and approved at that time. But it ended dividing even more the faith.

2007-03-15 14:01:38 · answer #1 · answered by apicole 4 · 0 0

Well if you hear the gospel and believe, you do get forgiven, since Jesus came to die for our sins and only God could; you also receive the Holy Spirit. You pray to God the Father as a believer, since we get born again, therefore christians are truly children of God, hence he is Father.

You have to believe first, as otherwise God won't bless you with His Holy Spirit, since He will honour His son, by *only* revealing himself when a person believes in Jesus. You may perform ritual and do good works as much as like in other monotheistic beliefs but God won't give you His Spirit until His Son is honoured.

The trinity is therefore experientially real to every christian. You can't explain christian experience without it. Also although not explicitly declared in the New Testament, its clear that all three are regarded as God if you read the New Testament.

But its also clear that they are one, if you analyse the references to Jesus, Holy Spirit and God the Father.

2007-03-12 07:17:45 · answer #2 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 0 0

From the looks and sounds of things, I'd say that the Trinity is adding confusion and turmoil in a monotheistic religion, wouldn't you?

It's the legacy of the insistence that Jesus is also God.

2007-03-12 06:55:33 · answer #3 · answered by NHBaritone 7 · 2 1

It's actually Polytheistic.

Take a look at how the Trinity was formed:

The answer is: not till 300-400 years after the days of Jesus and his apostles. It is a striking fact that the "early Church Fathers" -- the theologians who wrote in the period 100-300 A.D. -- knew nothing of it, and frequently uttered opinions which contradict it. For the majority of them there was no question of Jesus' being "co-equal and co-eternal with the Father". He was subordinate to God his Father, and was regarded as a "created Being". The teachings which now make up the Doctrine of the Trinity were the decisions of a number of general Church Councils. These are the most significant:

325 A.D. First General Council at Nicea, declared that the Son was from the beginning of the same nature as the Father.

381 A.D. Second General Council at Constantinople, declared that the Holy Spirit was to be worshipped with the Father and the Son.

431 A.D. Third General Council at Ephesus, decreed that Jesus had two natures, a human and a divine; also that Mary was the "mother of God", in opposition to those who maintained that she was the "mother of Christ".

451 A.D.
Fifth General Council at Chalcedon, decreed that the two natures in Christ constituted only one Person and one will.

The Trinity:
God is three persons
Each person is divine
There is only one God.

2007-03-12 06:51:31 · answer #4 · answered by Justsyd 7 · 5 2

Read Duet 6:4 and Mark 12:29. There's only 1 God!

2007-03-12 08:21:48 · answer #5 · answered by IKB 3 · 0 0

GOD put it there. Here's a bit of proof:

1) The word translated as "God" in our Bibles is the Hebrew word "Elohim," which is a pleural word meaning "Gods."

2) God refers to Himself in the pleural; see Genesis 1:26a. There is no evidence this is the "royal we," as some try to argue.

3) There are instances in the Bible where God the Father speaks to God the Son (Jesus Christ, a.k.a. The Word). In Psalm 45:6-7, the writer states: "Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated wickedness: Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows." Notice that the word God is actually applied to two different Persons within these two verses. He is addressing God, and after addressing God, he says that another God had anointed the first God with the oil of gladness above "your" fellows. It should be noted that in this verse the first Elohim is being addressed. The second Elohim is the God of the first Elohim. Therefore, it is God’s God who has anointed Him with the oil of gladness. Another example may be found at Hosea 1:7.

4) Then there are Scriptural sources that reference ALL THREE Persons of the Trinity: Father, Son and Spirit:

Isaiah 42:1 "Behold, My [Father] Servant [Son], whom I uphold; My Chosen, in whom My soul delights: I have put My Spirit [Holy Spirit] upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles."

The first Person is the speaker, who is seen by the pronouns "my" and "I." The second Person is the speaker's "servant," the servant of Jehovah. And the third Person is the "Spirit" of God. Scripture repeatedly identifies Jesus Christ as God the Father's "Servant."

Isaiah 61:1 is a second example:

"The Spirit [person #1] of the Lord Jehovah [person # 2] is upon me [person # 3]; because Jehovah has anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;…" Again, there are three individuals: the Lord Jehovah; the Spirit of Jehovah; and the speaker ("me"). We know from Luke 4:18 that the person referring to Himself as "Me" is Jesus Christ.

5) Many folks, when disputing the Triune nature of God, use Deut. 6:4 as proof that "God is One," not "three Gods in One." However, they misunderstand the Hebrew word used there and its context. The Hebrew word translated as "one" is "echad." This word DOES NOT state an "absolute one," it states a "compound One" that fully supports the Trinity. Look at these Biblical verses that ALL use "echad": Gen. 1:5 & 2:24; Ezra 2:64; Ezekiel 37:17. Here, we see a PLEURALITY that is joined into a singular, yet the pleurality of this One is still recognized. Conversely, the Hebrew word "yachid" means an "ABSOLUTE ONE," and can be seen at places such as Gen. 22:2, where it's translated as "only." NEVER is God refered to as "yachid," which would be necessary in order for anti-Trinitarians to be correct.

2007-03-12 07:02:38 · answer #6 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 1 0

So why in the bible you see three in heaven because i Just see two the almitghy God and the lamb for example Revelation 21:22 And I did not see a temple in it, for Jehovah God the Almighty is its temple, also the Lamb. Why only two if they are three? and in John 1:1 only two the verb and God, where is the third person?

2007-03-12 08:32:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Trinity is a masked polytheism.

2007-03-12 07:04:48 · answer #8 · answered by Kimo 4 · 1 0

Think of the triune God as 1x1x1 not 1+1+1

He is triune(3 in one) not triple.

Similarly,God created man in His image.(also triune)
Bonsai Bobby is: Soul- mind,will,emotions
Spirit- the real me or heart
Body- flesh,blood,bone

Yet all are part of or are manifestations of the same me.

2007-03-12 07:12:05 · answer #9 · answered by bonsai bobby 7 · 2 0

but it is one God.

God the Father, who has no human form.
God the Son, who is God in the form of human flesh.
God the Holy Spirit, which is the Divine Love that emanates between the Father and the Son.

2007-03-12 06:53:05 · answer #10 · answered by Jack Chedeville 6 · 1 1

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