If Christians can say that God is eternal and has no beginning and has no end....
Why then, cannot they say that matter is the same? Matter has no end or beginning? It just always has been.
re: the Big Bang: There is a good theory (a little more believable and scientific than the Bible theory) that there has been countless "Big Bangs" in a collapsing and expanding universe.
Also, transdimentional theorists show how infinity, time and distance are only figments of the imagination or better, merely "shadows" of higher dimentional realities - so the Creationist idea of "Where did it all come from" would not be a factor.
there are several metaphysical and theoretical (physics) explanations.
None of them starting with "God spoke."
2007-03-12 06:42:23 · 20 answers · asked by John Galt 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I know it's transdimensional - I dictated the question to my leanhaun-sidhe!
This question is really for Creationists! OOps!
2007-03-12 06:48:48 · update #1
As I understand it, and physics is not my field so bear with me, matter is not all there is to it. There is also energy. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, but it can be transformed into energy, energy into matter, matter into matter, etc. I like the cyclical model of repeated expansions/contractions, am interested in string theory but haven't found time to really get into it yet. What I keep coming back to is a suspicion that the infinite regress does not, in fact, terminate, which resolves the God issue but does not resolve the infinity issue, I am considering the possibility of a spherical Universe, which resolved certain issues for the flat-earthers. What we could perceive as infinity could end up being a circle. Not enough is known, we can't travel far enough, and I by the time we do I won't exist anymore, but one thing I do know is that at least we are trying. We are observing and studying, cosmologists, astronomers, physicists, are dedicating their lives to answering our questions, and that is more than I can say for anyone who chalks it all up to the god of the gaps and turns his back on the pursuit of knowledge.
2007-03-12 06:51:03 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't understand where you're trying to go with this? Nothing you said after the word "evolutionists" had anything at all to do with evolution. Evolution has nothing to do with the beginnings of the universe, or even the beginnings of life, just how life has changed and grown since then. You are quite right that something does not come from nothing. Neither matter or energy can be either created or destroyed, it only changes forms. Knowing that, it stands to reason that the universe (or rather, the stuff the universe is composed of) has always been there. Not in it's current form, of course, but in some form or another. Even if one believes that the first cell simply rose out of the primordial ooze (a theory completely separate from evolution) it didn't come from nothing, it came from the materials that were available in that ooze.
Edit: Ahh, I see. That makes more sense.
2007-03-12 06:50:54 · answer #2 · answered by The Resurrectionist 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because the fact of the matter is something cannot come from nothing..... in this dimension.
God is thought to be in a fourth dimension and therefore the laws of this dimension do not apply to Him at all. And if this is so then who are we to say what He can and cannot do!
He is in another dimension and does not abide by our rules.
And many cannot rule out this possibility, because even some scientists think thast there could be another dimension or parralel universes....
2007-03-12 06:51:41 · answer #3 · answered by Creationist 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
These are all, as you well put it, theorists, there is no proof of how one or the other brought it all into creation, is it so bad to beleive, have faith, that the Unmoved Mover, the First Creator, the First thinker, made all of this. I find it better to believe in something, that in nothing at all, since that gives no purpose to life itself.
To be good, loving, charitable, caring, forgiving, understanding, wise, etc... is what humanity should seek, not the answer to what cannot be answered. If we were meant to know the answer of creation, then God would have placed it in someones brain by now.
2007-03-12 06:51:11 · answer #4 · answered by Perhaps I love you more 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
This is not a question. It's a thesis. But:
Yes, Nothingness comes from Nothingness.
And perhaps we are nothing when we loose consciousness and, recovered, we finish believing in the illusion that we are actually something. Heard about Bizantinism and angel's sex?
2007-03-12 06:54:58 · answer #5 · answered by Rafael Maria Castellano 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This was a good question but your remarks are incorrect God didn't come or evolve from nothing He was always here. you needn't any bang for that but He is the BIG
2007-03-12 06:53:22 · answer #6 · answered by manoman 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
So you just finished your first semester in college, can't keep up with all the info you just got handed, but still wanna come here sounding like you know what you're talking about. Try again next semester, buddy.
2007-03-12 06:48:51 · answer #7 · answered by guicho79 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Scientists don't even know what matter is, when explaining the elemental constituents its always in terms of behavior in relation to other forms
2007-03-12 07:12:08 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Pretty sure you've got the two mixed up. God is an idea where something (ie. humans) comes from nothing. (God) Evolution is certainly not that.
2007-03-12 06:50:18 · answer #9 · answered by untilyoucamealong04 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
From the Book of Carl Sagan (blessed be his corpse): "In the Beginning, there was Nothing. Then, it Exploded..."
2007-03-12 06:48:01 · answer #10 · answered by Dances with Poultry 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋