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trying to take over the schools by not allowing Christian beliefs in school? Isn't that kind of hypocritical since they're complaining that we're trying to take out their beliefs from the schools. I mean if we can't teach facts then why should we teach something that can't be proven?

I guess my question here is why is it okay for Christians to complain about Atheist trying to take religion out of school but it's okay for Christians to want to leave their beliefs in the school.

2007-03-12 06:23:48 · 21 answers · asked by photogrl262000 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

**First off I'm not complaing, I'm simply asking a question, if you want to say that I'm being hypocritical for asking a question as to why christians are the only one that should have their beliefs taught in school, that's fine...but you still didn't answer my question.

2007-03-12 06:33:15 · update #1

21 answers

It's not okay. They never got the memo explaining about seperation of Church and State. No one's beliefs should be in schools, but schools should have a good religion section for people who want to research other religions (mine doesn't and it sucks, it's all Christianity, Muslim, and Judaism books). Alot of Christians are so closed minded, they think their religion should dominate everything.

2007-03-12 06:35:21 · answer #1 · answered by Caity S 4 · 1 0

It is ok if they take everything out of school that is not based on fact or proof.

That would mean they can teach English, math, foreign languages, national history, world history, art, biology, health, astronomy and physical education.

This should include a study of the founders of the United States, and their philosophies; the beginning of different cultures and governments around the world; studies of economic systems ie: communism, capitalism, and keynesian.

Teaching fringe science like evolution would be indoctrination, as would creation science.

These things can be debated in college, not preschool to12th grade.

Who wants to make me the education czar of the United States?

grace2u

2007-03-12 06:46:54 · answer #2 · answered by Theophilus 6 · 0 0

Because it's an either/or proposition. Either you allow a person to learn both issues, such as Creation and Evolution, or you refuse to allow it. If we don't allow certain beliefs, then we have people offended.

Personally, I would prefer to have creation taught as a possible theory since there are a lot of people that do consider that as an option. Because when you think about it, evolution is also a theory because there is no historical record of any person being around during that time to prove whether or not we descended from primitive organisms. So, I think to be better informed, all well known theories should be discussed and people then allowed to decide for themselves.

Atheists, if you are open to thoughts and want people to think for themselves, why not allow it taught as a possible theory and allow the students to make up their mind? By not allowing creation to be taught as a theory in the classroom, are you not being the ones who are closed minded?

2007-03-12 06:31:44 · answer #3 · answered by Searcher 7 · 0 2

They aren't "Christians" per sey, they are anti-secularists.

Anti-secularists hate secular governments, secular education and laws based on science and the common good.

That's why they blow up federal buildings like McVeigh, or fly planes into buildings like the World Trade Center, or shoot doctors, or bomb the Olympics.

Most religious people are not anti-secularists, and will realize that since secular schools are part of a secular society, they aren't a threat to religious people in religious society.

In the case of evolution, they are confused and think evolution is atheistic. It is not.

If atheism was in school, kids would be taught "there is no god."
Evolution is not the teaching that there is no god.

Also, anti-secularists are ignorant about things like the fact that "under god" was ADDED TO the pledge against the will of the BAPTIST MINISTER who wrote it and should be removed out of respect to the author, more than anything else.

It is their lack of knowledge that makes them scared and whiney.

2007-03-12 06:33:51 · answer #4 · answered by LabGrrl 7 · 2 0

well because we have "freedom of religion" and athetist want to take it out of schools. when we should have the freedom to learn it if we so choose.

Non-belief in God is a choice. If you don't like it, keep your mouth shut. Its that simple.

Teaching evolution, would be teaching something that hasn't been proven as well.
Same as all those theories of how existance started. (big bang, etc...)

I don't know but God is hope too me, and I would rather my children be taught to have faith and hope, then to believe we are here for no reason and will rot away in a few years.
because then you will have kids, killing kids over boyfriends/ clothes and such, because they have no reason to believe it's wrong.
Just because my parents told me not to do drugs, didn't stop me when I was 17.

2007-03-12 06:32:40 · answer #5 · answered by chersa 4 · 0 2

I am an atheist... and no don't question me saying I'm not an atheist and I believe in a god because I don't.

But to answer the question, religion should be taken out of schools because each person has the free will right to believe what they want. What a Buddhist believes is different from a Christian. Would you as a Catholic want to pray like a Moslem? No, you would find it offensive and repulsive, just as someone who is Jewish would find a Lutheran prayer offensive just as I find it offensive to have to sit thru a prayer at a baseball game.....

It is okay for me to have to put up with those at work bringing in their Bibles, them having little prayer sessions at their cubicle, and looking at crosses. But if I were for example, a Satanist and I brought in the Satanic Bible or perhaps a pentagram I would be the subject of multiple complaints and sent to HR.

"Christians" are nothing but hypocrites. Even our president made a statement against atheists that is discrimination. "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Religion belongs in one of two places only. In the privacy of your home or in a church. Why should I, just as everyone else have to put up with YOUR beliefs? According to YOUR Bible, everyone is born with free will to make choices. Even our Constitution guarantees us that right, yet our own current President made a statement against what our fore-fathers laid down for us. "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

But no, "Christians" want to point fingers at everyone else for the negative attitudes, lack of ethics, and non-existent morals in todays society blaming tv, games, music and everyone else but themselves as parents saying "Prayer in schools works!" and will "fix" all the problems of today's youth. Take a long hard look in the mirror to see what kind of role model you are making and maintaining for your own child.

Tell ya what Christians that want prayer in schools, since your "faith" in your "god" is so strong, why don't you pray to your "god" to put prayer back in schools? Remember, if your faith is strong enough he can do anything... and if it doesn't happen it's because of one of two things. Either your faith isn't strong enough, or he doesn't exist. Or are you going to blame it on the Devil now? Since when in your fictional "Bible" is the Devil stronger than your "God"?

2007-03-12 06:50:08 · answer #6 · answered by pyratesteele 2 · 1 0

the woman above me has a wonderful essay that states these people lack knowledge and take action based on it,

and you just read the answers from christians when they claim there is no such thing as an atheist or atheism is wrong or whatever

2007-03-12 06:37:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Christian beliefs are not forbidden in schools, nor is the practice of prayer.

What is forbidden is forcing everyone to participate or to listen to your participation, or a teacher endorsing prayers or a certain religion.

If you want to pray/express beliefs, do so to yourself, or while with like-minded friends or religious school clubs.

2007-03-12 06:30:51 · answer #8 · answered by Snark 7 · 3 0

It is a psychological fact that "people prefer to believe what they prefer to be true."

When someone challenges a believer, and shows how their faith is either, unreasonable, illogical, unscientific, delusional or downright impossible, the believer (usually Christian or Muslim or Jew - or some odd variant) is forced to retreat into a faith-based defense, or either a sophomoric attempt to actually present a counter-argument (which is rare, because their sources are usually 5th or 6th grade schoolbooks - or the primary religious text for their particular religion itself) - must say things like:
"You are a dummy" or
"You can choose either to burn in Hell or go to paradise"
"My religious text proves itself to my heart when I read it"
"I don't need proof"
(I like that last one - I met a guy who believed that bricks were made of candy - I thought I could prove they weren't by telling him to eat one... It was against his belief to eat bricks, I found out and also, it was his belief that people who did not believe couldn't eat bricks at all!)

So, what are you gonna do? I know bricks are just bricks.... I know Christianity/Islam?Judaism is not true, but in similar fashion, their religions are designed to be self-proving.... What do you do?

I guess the best thing to do is to pray that these people do not breed.

2007-03-12 06:28:39 · answer #9 · answered by John Galt 2 · 7 1

The truth hurts - that is why the Christian's complain so much about us Atheists.

2007-03-12 06:36:59 · answer #10 · answered by The Happy Atheist 5 · 1 0

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