Jehovah's Witnesses: Is Jesus God or Michael?

Question

I was asked to start another thread.

I was told that JWs are Christian. It is my belief that you must worship Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior in order to be a Christian.

A big part of the JW reason for not worshipping Jesus the way they worship Jehovah, is that they do not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, rather they believe He is really Michael the archangel sent to earth.

Achtung (I'm quoting you b/c I'm assuming you'll follow me to this thread since you requested it.) said previously:

"Jehovah's Witnesses teach that no salvation occurs without Christ, that accepting Christ's sacrifice is a requirement for true worship, that every prayer must acknowledge Christ, that Christ is the King of God's Kingdom, that Christ is the head of the Christian congregation, that Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!"

****"Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!"*****

Wow, so He created the universe with his hands as the master worker, and He is not God, eh? I believe that the bible says that God is the only creator.

IF, you were to be correct, and Jesus is Michael, then HOW can He possibly be the son of God??

HOW could Jesus/Michael have created the universe before they both existed if they were not God?

WHY does Revelations 12 discuss both Jesus and Michael in the end of days?

How can they be the same if they were both there?

There is no mention of Jesus returning to Heaven as an angel.....

Achtung... please answer my actual questions! Thanks.

OH and if you think I'm angry and criticizing you...than you must be angry and critical of everyone you witness to... you are taught that JWs are the only ones that "spread the news"... I do that too. Funny thing is, when you spread it with a JW, they think they are being attacked...and hence my previous question about being witnessed to.

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John 17:11 (King James Version)

11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

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John 17:11 JW NWT

11 Also, I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are.
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Sounds like they are the same to me!!!

Papa Bear- If you really think JW is where it's at, you would have repented and no longer been Disfellowshipped...the 80's were a long time ago... perhaps you are not up to the challenge.

Why am I not allowed to witness to Jehovah's Witnesses? So funny.....

Anomaly you'll be getting an email soon...you are the only one who answers the actual question.... but did you note my quotes above from John 17:11...Thank you!

Answer 1

Chris·tian
Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus' teachings.
Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

*the actual definition of a Christian has nothing to do with "worshipping Christ."
Jesus absolutely was God's "master worker," please give me the biblical reference that states that God is the "Master Worker." Jesus deferred to his father throughout his life, he never professed to be an equal to his father. Matt. 26:39, 1 Cor. 11:3, Joh 14:28; 17:3; 20:17; Mr 15:34.
Jesus never requested that his followers worship him. Jehovah God, however, does demand exclusive devotion, and this is why HE and not Jesus is worshipped. Ex. 20:5

* It appears as though you are looking not for information, but a verbal/scriptural sparring match. You seem angry, and I'm sorry about that.

Answer 2

Yes but ask yourself this simple question but first read The book of Daniel 7:9-13. first who is the Son of a man? What is his name? who is the Ancient of Days. So you see two people not one but two one old and let say a young one, the Ancient is Jehovah the son of a man is his Son, his name will be in the future Jesus but it will be 600 years later, but in heaven what was his name? if you see Daniel 12:1 talk about a Great prince that will bring people back from the dead in the future and will be a great tribulation? doesn´t sound like the role of Jesus but Guess what his name is Michael the Only Archangel that mention the bible (gabriel wasn´t you will never going to find that description) later Paul talks that the voice of Jesus in the future is a voice of Archangel, ok Jesus couldn´t be less of an Archangel, if he is higher then the bible dismiss his authority so the only option is that he is an Archangel but he is a god also, How? simple god is not a given name is a title, in 2 Corithian 4:4 give the title of God to Satan and Satan was a Cherub (ezekiel 28:10) so Jesus is the higher angel, the chief of them so is proper to call him a god in the greek original scripture John 1:1 mentioned two times the word "God" and the second time was written "god" in the original language was written in different ways not in the translation but the original, and if we go to revelation we will not finish within one whole week.

Answer 3

Jesus is the Son of God, and actually the bible is pretty clear that Jesus is the one who did the work of creating everything.

An "archangel" is not the same as a regular angel. The bible never uses the plural word "archangels", so there is no proof that there is more than one archangel. If there is one archangel in charge, who else would it be except Jesus?

About 50 years ago JWs decided that they would only use the word "worship" with the Father Jehovah, but its just a word thing and doesn't change that their Christians. They just think Father and Son must be different people instead of the same person. You might be interested that this agrees with about a third of people who THINK they believe the Trinity.

Answer 4

Think of it like this. Jesus is not God himself as God is truely One and when I say One it is literally One not 3 in 1 as God as God is not a God of confusion and certainly not a "mystery" as many trinitarian churches call Him. God is certainly not mysterious even if His power is unsearchable and without bounds.
Jesus was the archangel Michael in heaven before he come to earth in the form of a man. Logically only a creation could become another form of creation, God is a Creator and has never become a creation. Jesus Christ is the spokesman of God, he is our communication channel to God. God good works and even our salvation go through his beloved begotton Son Jesus Christ.
Churches have mixed up a lot of things over the centuries and have done so on purpose many times to suit their ends.
Such as to convert pagans to the political power of christendom. Christmas and Easter were originally pagan holidays that were adopted into christendom. Pagan worship of tri-gods were adopted into christendom into the trinity that we have today in churches.
It is not what the Bible really teaches but church traditions, doctrines and creeds that have been handed over the centuries to the worshippers. Jehovah's Witnesses have taken the teaching of the Bible back to how it should of been originally taught when the apostles were alive in the first century and many people are finding delight in learning and living by the Truth of Jehovah. I can grant you that the Churches of christendom have made Jehovah's people their enemies because of the teaching and preaching work of sharing what the Bible really teaches.
But the message of the coming heavenly kingdom with Christ as designate king over the entire earth after Armageddon is the hope and joy they have brought to millions of Jehovah's Witnesses. They can't build kingdom halls fast enough to accommodate the millions who share in such wonderful earthly hope.

No longer is God without a name. His name is Jehovah.
Psalms 83:18

God is not a cruel torturer of the wicked. Jehovah is love.
1 John 4:16
John 15:17
Matthew 5:45

God is not an organisation of godheads. Jehovah is one God
Isaiah 44:6
John 17:3
John 4:24


The Earth will not be destroyed. The entire Earth will become a paradise of meek ones who will live forever without sickness and pain.
Psalms 37:11
Matthew 5:5
Isaiah 65:21-24

Jesus is not a God. Jesus is Jehovah's begotton Son the firstborn of all creation and the image of the invisible God.
Colossians 1:15
Revelation 1:1 & 3:14

The Churches of Christendom is filled with the memorials of war. Jehovah's people do not fight against fleshly men for their enemies are spiritual forces of darkness. No Jehovah's Witnesses pick up arms against other nations.
2 Corinthians 10:4
1 Cornithians 10:20
Psalms 37:9,10
Isaiah 2:4
Psalms 72:16

Answer 5

Just to add to achtung's answer, the word translated in John 1:3 (KJV) "by" is as follows;
διά
dia
dee-ah'
A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through (in very wide applications, local, causal or occasional). In composition it retains the same general import: - after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) . . . fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, X though, through (-out), to, wherefore, with (-in). In composition it retains the same general import.
So if you think that since the KJV translators used the word "by" instead of "through" to show that Jesus IS the creator, it means the same thing here, so no dice! ;)

Answer 6

If you really cared for an answer, you would ask for a Bible study to learn the answers, rather than try to get some short answer in here. Or do you fear you are not up to the challenge?

Answer 7

JW is false because it claims Jesus is not God! Jesus was there when Creation took place! Jesus is God because that's what He called Himself to be! If you read John first chapter you will see that The Word, meaning Jesus, was before Creation, The Word was with God and the Word was God! The Word took a human form and came to Earth! The Word died on the cross and was risen! Paul says that Jews did not receive Jesus as God and that was their mistake! JW is another form of Judaism in my opinion, a way to keep people from the Truth that is Jesus!

JW is also false because they teach that only 140,000 will be saved! Jesus says that anyone who calls on His name will be saved! That means millions and millions of people! I don't even know why JW bother spreading their false teachings if they have such a limited amount of people being saved.

Answer 8

the truth is jesus is a human which giving a power to lead the people..by teaching the truth of what god said to us..when jesus time he spend his intire life by preaching people the truth and tell to people that he is not God but a messenger of God.pls find the right church .when you find the church which only preach of what bible say , that is absollutely the true church

Answer 9

What about where Paul DIRECTLY calls Jesus "God?"

Titus 2:13 That’s how we should live as we wait for the blessed hope God has given us. We are waiting for Jesus Christ to appear in all his glory. He is our great God and Savior.

Answer 10

I agree with what you said. My sister in law is JW, she acts really weird about Jesus, even more so than what JW claim they believe. Interested to see answers.