-If God is omniscient, it means he knows everything he is going to do.
-If God is omnipotent, it means he has the power to do anything.
So, hypothetically, does God have the power to do something even he didn't know he was going to do?
-If he cannot, it means he is not omnipotent because he does not have the power to do so.
-If he can, it means he is not omniscient because he did not have the knowledge he would do such and action.
Could it be...
Paradox!
2007-03-11
15:50:27
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dmlk2
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And don't be an asshat and say "God wouldn't do that" because because, like all hypothetical questions, it doesn't actually have to happen to discuss. It's hypothetical.
2007-03-11
15:52:19 ·
update #1
Just fricken answer the question. It's a yes or no question.
newman:
God is omnipresent. He is everywhere. Even in our timeframe, whatever the hell that means. Your answer has simply clarified that he is omniscient. I already know that. He knows everything that could/has/will ever happen. I asked if he could use his infinite POWER to overrule his infinite KNOWLEDGE. Simple question, but you had to dodge it. because you couldn't answer it sufficiently.
redglory:
You should pick up a dictionary before picking up the Bible.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=omniscient&searchmode=none
And saying "All things are possible with God" is the definition of omnipotence. Again, I want to know if his power can overrule his knowledge. And again, question dodged.
2007-03-11
16:37:07 ·
update #2
keichii:
At least now the other people here can read about what God can and cannot do, because apparently they don't know the definitions of the terms involved.
Lena:
The answer is faith? Wow, thanks. You find a question you can't answer so decide to get two points by saying something completely asinine. Why on earth would I believe in your silly God if he has contradicting qualities? That is what I am trying to clarify right now.
Shawn:
You have dodged the question. All things are possible with God because He is omnipotent. That is the definition. To say my hypothetical scenerio is beyond the realm of possibility is to say that God is not all-powerful after all. Read keichii's answer and see for yourself.
2007-03-11
16:37:34 ·
update #3
newman:
Maybe it "happens a lot" because you keep dodging the question and expect people to understand your answer as a coherent response. I'm sorry, but I understood you perfectly the first time. To summarize your original point:
I am incorrect in putting God in "our" frame of reference by saying he is omniscient and knows everything he has done in the past/present/future. You make the point that everything he has done/will do/could have done/could ever have done is known to him, and all paths, all possible choices taken and their consequences, are known to him. That is your point.
I said, quite correctly, that what you were simply defining omniscience- God knows everything that has/is/will/might have happened. Now, if God is omnipotent, with the power to do ANYTHING, the question (which you dodged) is "Does he have the ABILITY (power) to do something he could not forsee with this "timeless" knowledge he has?" The point is, no matter the response, these traits are contradictory.
2007-03-12
11:27:53 ·
update #4