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A friend never tips...he believes that a worker has a job to do and why should he give anything extra to get service? Now he will be going on a ten day cruise...he says he can afford it because he does not tip. He figures he has saved enough money by not tipping and he does not intend to use a cruise line that requires giving workers tips....I disagree, am I right?

My argument is that on a cruise ship people are paid a minimum and the cruise line knows that most passangers will tip. These workers leave their families for months and work on ships to send money home...he disagrees, Am I right?

2007-03-11 04:44:24 · 67 answers · asked by Dave 6 in Society & Culture Etiquette

67 answers

Your friend is a cheap person and I would be ashamed to be seen in public let alone call him a friend if he truly doesn't tip. The service industy is low wages and everybody knows this...tips is how they make the other half of their salary.

Take my advice...don't hang around with a person like that his kharma can only bring you down also.

2007-03-11 04:51:13 · answer #1 · answered by sirdufus69 3 · 9 1

Hello. I can see you point, and I think since he's frequenting places that pay employees less so that more can be made through tips that he should do so. I can't believe that he can actually afford a cruise by not tipping. The thing with tipping is that he should do it if he's been given decent service. Should he want to not tip as much he should at the least tip 10% of his bill, though the standard is 15%. Another thing bad about those who supplement their wages via tips get a whole lot of people who don't tip. He should tip them something, especially something closer to the standard. Good luck.

2007-03-11 15:30:05 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The last cruise I went on it would have been difficult to not tip. We were given a sheet before we ever got on the ship that told us we were expected to tip, who to tip and that the tip was up to each of us individually, but they listed the averages. Then towards the end of the cruise, envelopes where left in our cabin for each of the persons that should be tipped. You are right about the cruise people being dependent on their tips and being away from their families for months at a time. The literature I received explained that these tips were part of the cost of the cruise. I thin it is more important to tip on a cruise than even a waitress. She would be out 1 tip for an evening where the help on a cruise has been on you beck and call for at least a week and part of the success of your vacation depended upon them. I would be embarrassed to be with your friend.

2007-03-11 12:50:07 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Wait staff are paid below the minimum wage because they make all of their money on tips. Your friend is cheap and it is not fair to the person that wait on him not to be tipped anything for their time and service. If the person was making regular money, I could see how tipping would not be necessary... but most of the people make around $2 an hour. It should be necessary for every consumer to work in a service related industry such as in a restaurant or in retail for even just a week, just so they have a great appreciation or the people who work these jobs for a living.

2007-03-11 12:35:29 · answer #4 · answered by littlearthquake3355 3 · 1 0

It would be inexcusable for your cheap friend to NOT tip the workers on the cruise ship! You are 100% correct- these people are not paid very much and rely upon their tips. The service on a good cruise ship is incredible- your room steward, and your waiter are assigned to you, and very few other passengers, so their service is exemplary. There are guidelines for tipping in the cruise ship's brochures- do the right thing and handle the tips since your friend is apparently too clueless to do it.

2007-03-11 15:50:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In The Food Service Business...Most Waiters And Waitresses Depend On The Tips...It Is Part Of Their Income...Resturaunts Never Pay A Livable Wage For Wait Staff...Its A Given...Decent PPL That Can Afford It Will Tip....Thats America..If You Cannot Afford A Gratuity A Hearty Thnx Is Acceptable..Otherwise Your Just Another Cheapskate.

2007-03-11 07:36:48 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

Tipping is not a requirement, but it is a form of etiquette. People who wait on you, or take care of your needs (maids, bellhops, etc) are given a limited salary because they are expected to get tips. These people are not you mom, so tipping is a way of thanking them for treating you well. Yes, these things may be their jobs to do, but that doesn’t mean that you should not tip them. These people have to do some really nasty things, because people do disgusting things when they know that someone else is cleaning up behind them.

Emily Post would not have tips on proper tipping if it was not the thing to do. They would not have tip calculators either. I can understand not tipping if the service is sub-par. However, if the service is great, a thank you is just not enough.

If this does not change your friend, then you can sit back and laugh when he is served ‘sneezers.’

2007-03-11 15:53:07 · answer #7 · answered by starwberry 5 · 1 0

Most ppl that work at jobs that you would leave tips like waitressing and such make a LOT less than minimum wage. Cruise ship ppl do tend to make more than due to the fact that they are at sea and away from home. Meaning they should be paid more. But your friend is someone who needs an awakening. Workers are NOT PAID ENOUGH. And they shouldnt have to deal with ppl like him.

2007-03-11 14:52:27 · answer #8 · answered by jessica 2 · 1 0

You are right. Most workers on cruise ships get paid just $50 per week and rely on tips for the rest.

2007-03-11 15:24:11 · answer #9 · answered by mksjmyd 4 · 1 0

you are absolutly right. Servers are paid $2.13 an hour and their taxes come out of that, so they hardly even see that much on their pay checks. A server works hard for their money and it sucks having to deal with people who run you around and are rude and then not get paid anything from that work. Not only is it rude, but it costs that server money. For every sale made, the server has to tip out a percentage to other people. Generally, servers have to tip-out to the QA or Expo which is the person that gets the food to the table and also the busser for cleaning off the table. So when a person does not tip, it costs the server money.
My possition is that if you cannot afford to tip the server to which you are taking up their time and table, stay in for dinner instead of wasting their time.

2007-03-11 11:06:05 · answer #10 · answered by pinkrubberduckie2004 1 · 1 1

For excellent service, I tip 25%. For average service, 15%. For poor service ... 10%, because although the service may be poor, often the server has no control over how sanitary the silver ware is or how well the kitchen is operating. If someone does not show for work, that server may be covering two or three areas instead of just one. And when people walk the bill, often the server has to pay for part of the bill ( or all!) Imagine waiting on a table of 10 well dressed businessmen who had a long drinking lunch who decide it would be funny to walk the tab. Your friend is a royal ****** who wouldn't last ten minutes in the service industry. Shame on him!!!

2007-03-11 11:13:38 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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