The Trinity?

Question

Is Jesus really God? Can you show me some scripture that can prove it?

*Please* Only answer if your a Christian.

also.....I want to add that if you translate the original greek text it doesnt say that THE WORD WAS GOD. also Did Jesus die on a cross?

Answer 1

Let me give you some interesting knowledge in history about the "Holy Trinity". In the Fourth century of our common era, Emperor Constatine, who was the Emperor of Rome, decided to bring together a meeting with all the Bishops of that city. The meeting was called the Council of Nicea. In which the Bishops and the Emperor, developed ideas in which later became common beliefs within Christianity. One of their topics of discussion and debate was whether or not Jesus and God were the same. Do you know why Emperor Constatine was interested in bringing this meeting and having discussions like that of the nature of God and Jesus? It wasn't because he and the Bishops were interested in the Spiritual welfare of the people, but something else. Power and Control! That was the motive for why this meeting was made. Many of the inhabitants were 'pagans' believing in many things and one that was most popular was three gods or godesses. There was a delema that needed to be resolved and that was to unite everyone and make them submissive to Emperor Constatine through help of....the Christian Church or The Clergy. With there help of adopting false teachings and making them "Christian", thus they will be able to control the people, by making them confortable in believing in something that is "similar" to what they also believe. So thus the "Holy Trinity" was born. Here are some "pagans" that believed in three gods, people like the Egyptians, Babylonians, and the Assryians, just to name a few. So the Trinity is not a scriptural teaching, the first century Christians did not teach it, nor did there greatest Teacher and Brother, Jesus Christ, teach them that he himself was God the Almighty. He did teach them that he and his father are the same in purpose and in thought but not in being.

Mark 10: 18 : "Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God."

Answer 2

Jesus is NOT God. But even if he were, that is not the trinity. As the prefix "tri-" indicates, you need three of something to make a trinity. For that reason, you cannot use Bible verses like John 1:1: ("...the Word was God." KJB), or John 10:30 ("I and my Father are one") or John 10:38; 14:10 ("the Father is in me and I am in the Father") or John 8:58 ("Before Abraham was, I Am"). Three of these verses only talk about 2 persons (Father and Son) and the last one only deals with Jesus. Where is person number three to complete the trinity?

One thing trinitarians fail to FULLY see is that there is more to the trinity than merely saying that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are all God (which the Bible does not say). They must ALSO be co-equal and co-eternal. Does the Bible say anything like that?

How about the verses at Matt. 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 where the Father, Son, and the holy spirit are all mentioned in the same verse? Does it say or even imply that all three are co-equal and co-eternal AND that combined they make up God? Not even close!

Jesus is not God. He is the Son of God. (John 10:36)

Concerning John 1:1, this is how a number of other Bibles renders this verse:

1808: "and the word was a god." The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome's New Translation: With a Corrected Text.

1864: "and a god was the word." The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson.

1928: "and the Word was a divine being." La Bible du Centenaire, L'Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.

1935: "and the Word was divine." The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.

1946: "and of a divine kind was the Word." Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme.

1950: "and the Word was a god." New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.

1958: "and the Word was a God." The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.

1975: "and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word." Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.

1978: "and godlike kind was the Logos." Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.

No, Jesus did not die on a cross. The Romans did use an instrument of execution known in Latin as the crux. And in translating the Bible into Latin, this word crux was used as a rendering of stau·ros′. Because the Latin word crux and the English word cross are similar, many mistakenly assume that a crux was necessarily a stake with a crossbeam. However, The Imperial Bible-Dictionary says: “Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole, and this always remained the more prominent part.”

Answer 3

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one."
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?"
33 The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God."

John 14:8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

John 8:57 So the Jews said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" 58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

Why did they pick up stones to throw at Him? Because they knew that Jesus was claiming to be God by calling Himself "I am".

Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

In response to the false claims of "line dancer" here are some scriptures on the Trinity.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Divine titles applied to the three persons in the Trinity

Exodus 20: 2

John 20: 28

Acts: 5: 3,4

Each person in described as:

Eternal

Romans 16: 26

Revelation 22: 13

Hebrews 9: 14

Omnipresent

Jeremiah 23: 24

Ephesians 1: 23

Psalms 139: 7

Omniscient

Acts 15: 18

John 21: 17

1 Corinthians 2: 10,11

Creator

Genesis 1: 1

Colossians 1: 16

Job 26: 13

Answer 4

The scriptures that I think best show this are John 1:1&14 and also I Timothy 3:16.

John says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God........And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

I Timothy tells us "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, beleived on in the world, and received up into glory."

God was maifest in the flesh, but Jesus is the flesh that dwelt with us. The disiples also preached Jesus to the Gentiles, and Jesus was received up into glory at the resurrection.

If you would like to email me, I can give you more scripture.

Answer 5

Romans 14:17-18; 15:16
1 Corinthians 2:2-5; 6:11; 12:4-6; 2 Corinthians 1:21-22; Galatians 4:6; Ephesians 2:18-22; 3:14-19; Ephesians 4:4-6; Colossians 1:6-8; 1Thessalonians 1:3-5; 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14; Titus 3:4-6.
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" [Matthew 28:19].
yeah it's in there... :-)

Answer 6

There are several, the first reference actually comes in the first book of the New Testament. Matthew 1:22-23

"All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet:
'Behold, the virgin shall be with child and bear a son,
and they shall name him Emmanuel,'
which means 'God is with us.'"

Many other great references have already been listed, but I found it interesting that you don't have to go any further than the first book of the New Testament.

Answer 7

Yes He is.

Scripture to follow...

John 1:1 ... John 1:14
John 15:26
Matthew 28:19
Luke 7:16
John 8:58
John 20:28
John 10:30
John 10:33
John 13:13
John 14:9
1 Timothy 3:16
Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6


Isaiah 48:16-17

"Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me."

Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the Lord your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go

etc, etc, etc...
Here's an online bible, if you are without one...
http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=put+your+hand+here§ion=0&version=nkj&new=1&oq=religion

Answer 8

In the beggining was the Word,and the Word was with God and the Word was God.(not a God,but God Himself)


Jesus again applies this name of God for Himself in John 8:56-58 “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”

“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” I AM in Greek is Ego emi; is in the present indicative active form of the verb “to be.” Meaning, what is true of His being before is true of Him today, that He has no change from eternity past to eternity future (Malachi 3:6).

Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shown you from my Father; for which of those works do you stone me? The Jews answered Him, saying, For a good work we stone you not; but for blasphemy; and because that you being a man, makest yourself, God."

Answer 9

No, Jesus is not God. I am an atheist and do not believe in a God.

Really, think about it: a person being a God? Wasn't this the general concept of all ancient peoples?

Answer 10

In the book of John he said "Me and the father are one"

John 10:30 - Jesus says, "I and the Father are one."

John 10:38; 14:10 - "the Father is in me and I am in the Father"