Since the Egyptians and Romans were such excellent record keepers?

Question

Why do many people choose to believe the Bible as infallible instead with its many discrepancies (many accounts do not agree with each other at all and Biblical scholars and scientists agree that certain things listed are impossible) while saying "the Romans/Egyptians just forgot to write that down or they lost it somewhere" when something does agree with history as we know it? It was never written down because it never happened.

There is no record anywhere of Pilate responsible for Jesus' execution.

There is no Egyptian record of a massive group of slaves leaving Egypt. A group the size of what the Bible mentions would be noticed but is not documented.

There is no record of Herod killing babies. The census in Luke 2 is disputed by scholars because there was no governor by that name at the time that the census is said to take place, and if there was a census it would have created mass chaos which again would have been documented but wasn't. According to historians, a census would not be conducted in the manner that Luke describes.

Again, using the population count as a factor, during Jesus' time it was said many times in the Bible that he drew crowds in the tens of thousands. Yet there is no Roman documentation of anyone attracting crowds of even a fraction of that number wherever they went, which would definitely not go unnoticed if it did occur.

Answer 1

Good point .Are there any records from the Romans on Pontas Pilate actually being responsible for the crucifiction of a Jesus Christ ??????

Answer 2

You are correct in noting that they were both excellent record keepers. While it sure would be interesting read through those type of archives, they obviously didn't survive to this day. Its not really surprising that they didn't survive is it? Its not just records relating to Biblical accounts...what about the records of all Augustus, Nero, etal? We simply don't have those sources anymore.

That is not to say that there are no sources. Roman based writers such Ovid, Pliny, & Josephus (although he was Jewish) are just a few sources that remain to this day. And, yes, some do add comments about the growing Christian movement. Likewise, archeology has confirmed people (such as Pontius Pilate), events (such as the expulsion of Jews from Rome), and many other minute details listed in the Bible.

As it currently is, there is more historical evidence of Jesus Christ then most any other ancient figure (via both Christian and non-Christian sources). We shouldn't really expect to see Christ's birth (or other events) noted in Roman documents/records. Most Romans had no clue who he was until crucified by Pilate (approx 30 A.D.). The next clue they had was around 64 A.D. when they blamed Christians for the fire that destroyed Rome, and slaughtered many of them at the hand of Nero (which was documented by Roman historians).

Finally, I would like to suggest that the historical Biblical accounts are trustworthy. If any of the historical arguments for Christ were mere "invention", don't you think that the enemies of the Church would have been eager to expose that? However, that isn't what we find in ancient records. The historical facts of Christ and the Church were NEVER questioned....the arguments (from non-believers) centered around whether Jesus was the Messiah...not whether the people, places, and events were recorded properly.

Answer 3

The Egyptians and Romans were not excellent record-keepers at all, and we only have fragments of the records they kept. So your question displays a certain ignorance right at the outset.

The view of the Bible that is held by the Roman Catholic church was voiced by Pope John Paul II. He said that the Bible is not to be taken as a literal description of scientific reality, but rather as an illustration of the correct relationship between man and God. This is the position of a conservative Christian denomination, and it probably represents the understanding of the majority of Christians.

It appears that you want to set up a straw man that you can point to and ridicule. Why are other people's religious beliefs so important to you that you want to criticize them even though you do not appear to understand them very well?

Answer 4

The problem central to your question was the burning of the library at Alexandria.It had a magnificent collection of ancient records from right across the ancient world.Your last sentence may not be correct or it could be correct but we may never know because of what was destroyed.We are commonly told that it was destroyed by Moslems but it fact it was first burnt long before the birth of Mohammed.Gibbon in his book Decline And Fall O f The Roman Empire indicates that it was burnt by Christians who believed that it contained lies.

Answer 5

Actually, if we study the dead sea scrolls and the Septuigent, we know the Bible missed some things and was skewed by men.

You are very vague and dont say what we are accusing Romans and Egyptians of failing to record, so I cannot address that part.


Not the popular Christian belief, but thats ok.

David

Answer 6

See the ipuwar papyrus in Leiden. in spite of everything the destruction and mayhem that preceded the parting of the sea and the form itself, there possibly weren't very many left to checklist something. it particularly is spoke of that Egypt entered right into a splash a dismal Age genuine around the time the Exodus occurred....it there any ask your self whether a severe share of the inhabitants, inclusive of lots of the army grew to become into destroyed and the rustic emptied of its wealth?

Answer 7

One thing you should know:


History was recorded by the victors.

Meaning that whoever won, got to record their own version of what happened, whether everything was true or not. History as we know it is the recorded and oral traditions of victors throughout history, not the losers. Therefore nothing in history is 100% accurate.

Answer 8

Josephus was a Roman historian, he wrote quite a bit about Jesus.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

Could you be more specific.