One gal just posted this as an answer to a question about satan:
"It may seem messed up but who are we to know the mind of God.? He knew what would happen but He knew also He'd have the victory in the end. He loves you so much that He couldn't create a world without you in it. That's why He sent Jesus to pay the price for your sins. So you would have a way to access Him."
I had to sit back and laugh.
In her first sentence, she states "who are we to know the mind of God?"
AND THEN, she proceeds to tell us all about THE MIND OF GOD, what he thinks, what he knows, and what he expects of everyone. Wow, what an ego she has, to claim to know all of that, right after saying "who are we to know the mind of God?"
Yikes! What is wrong with people? Does belief in a cult automatically erase wisdom, logic, reason and intelligence?
2007-03-10 07:10:53 · 22 answers · asked by jen1981everett 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
to the first answerer. you said "I think she meant, we can't know God's thoughts but do know what His word has told us."
NO WE DON'T. holy cow! nobody knows what god's word is. you talking abotu the bible?? therr is no proof of that!! over 70% of the people on earth reject the bible and christianity for the nonsense that it is!! you have no proof that it, or anything else, is the "word of god". criminy! your ego and self-centered approach to logic and intelligence is as messed-up as hers!!! dude! open your eyes!!
2007-03-10 07:31:58 · update #1
well, thanks to about half of you who avoided the question entirely and resorted to passive/agressive whining and retorts. (sigh)... but, thanks to the rest of you, on both sides, who attempted to see the point made, and answer it with some rational intent.
cheers!!
2007-03-10 07:37:41 · update #2
Contradiction is what drives their belief system. You can never have a logical conversation with them about it since their system is based on contradictions...they can say whatever they like and be able to back it up by quoting their book. Very convenient.
They are fed this from birth so that they'll make good little sheep.
2007-03-10 07:19:20 · answer #1 · answered by T S 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
What puzzles me is the limitations that people put on God. If God can do anything, then God can also "create a world without you in it". If there is a price to pay for sin, then God Himself must have created that price. If God wants people to access Him by payment, why did He supply the coin in the form of the suffering of a sinless person? God could have simply eliminated the price, had He chosen to. Why wouldn't God punish them in the same way as Christ was punished? That would be the same payment, wouldn't it? I don't think people understand the mission of Christ at all. The philosophy is convoluted, and the qualities they attribute to God are contradictory to their "explanations" of His reasoning.
2007-03-10 15:32:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Not all Christians are illogical, but there are too many running off at the mouth like this. This has less to do with Christians and more to do with people who speak without thinking, with which Internet Message boards are over populated with. I have seen the same crap in non-religious posts and those from other religions. It is not a Christian thing, it is the world we live in. Some kind of awful combination of an over abundance of low quality education, extremism, Internet access, and the freedom of speech. Sorry...
Someone commented that we are responding to a post by a preacher... I doubt it. Even if it is, as one, I doubt she is a good one. Fact of the matter, the best preaching goes unheard because of the world we live in. It is mostly the gimmicky or emotionally manipulative crap. I am a preacher, but also trained in rhetoric and logic from my philosophy degree. I invite you to come to my congregation anytime and can suggest some quality preaching if you'd like.
2007-03-10 15:19:26 · answer #3 · answered by paladin.macroberts 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.
2007-03-10 15:39:44 · answer #4 · answered by Isolde 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Everyone is prone to err, as we are humans.
we can know the mind of God in my opinion, as He speaks, we can listen, and as He left His Word for us, and His word for us, and we can read it.
and me personally, I try to watch what I say, and give the most logical, usually scientifical, answer I can. So to questions which ask "How can God be perfect if He made man and man does wrong? wouldn't He know?" I answer "God does not manipulate, nor supress our free will. He gave His perfection to us to the extent of what is physically possible (having a soul, spirit and body, desires, emotions and choice), but as we are limited as humans, we do not have God's non-physical ability to be separate from sin, and so our desire to know brought us near and into sin". If any contradictions exist, it is my humanity.
2007-03-10 15:19:40 · answer #5 · answered by Hey, Ray 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
1 Cor 2:16
For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
Paul is talking about 2 minds. We can't have the Mind of the LORD but we can have the mind of Christ.
Notice that Paul uses a coordinating conjunction "but". For example, no man can approach God and live. But, Jesus has ripped the veil of separation. So which is it? The fact is that because Jesus revealed the Father through His coming in the flesh, then the coordinating conjunction states that "yes, no man can know the mind of God, BUT through Christ, we can!"
2007-03-10 15:16:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
You never mentioned what the question was that you posed to her.
Would you be willing to re-ask the question, because I would love to have a shot at it.
2007-03-10 15:20:41 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I could ask you a similar question: why are you generalising about all christians? that too isn't intelligent or wise or reasonable either!
We don't all fall into the same category....logical, no?
2007-03-10 15:20:43 · answer #8 · answered by Kikkaz 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
For some people, yes. But some are actually still intune with everything dispite being in a religion.
2007-03-10 15:14:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Please don't judge all christians on one. She was just trying to answer a question. There are just as many stupid atheists (and contradictory atheists) as there are stupid and contradictory christians. This one girl may or may not represent the norm. More proof for how contradictory they are may be a better argument.
And to the people who gave me a thumbs down....I'm an atheist!
2007-03-10 15:15:07 · answer #10 · answered by Nameless 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋