ATHEISTS:WHAT if YOU .......??

Question

hey dears

Suppose you found a watch in the middle of the desert. What would you conclude? Would you think someone dad dropped the watch? Or would you suppose that the watch came by itself? Of course, no sane person would say the watch just happened to emerge from the sand.

All the intricate working parts could not simply develop from the metals that lay buried in the earth. The watch must have a manufacturer. If a watch tells an accurate time, we expect the manufacturer must be intelligent. Blind chance cannot produce a working watch. But what else tells accurate time? Consider the sunrise and the sunset. Their timings are so strictly regulated that scientistscan publish in advance the sunrise and sunset times in your daily newspaper, but who regulated the timings of sunrise and sunset? If a watch cannot work without an intelligent maker, how can the sun appear to rise and set with such clockwork regularity? Could this occur by itself? Consider also that we benefit from the sun only because it remains at a safe distance from the earth.



A distances that averages 93 million miles. If it get much closer, the earth would burn up. And if it got too far away, the earth would turn into an icy planet making human life here impossible. Who decided in advance that this was the right distance? Could it just happen by chance. Withuot the sun, plants would not grow. Then animals and humans wouls starve. Did the sun just decide to be there for us? We need to experience sunrise. We need the sun energy and its light to see our way during the day. But we also need sunset. We need a break for the heat, we need the cool of the night and we need the lights to go out so we may sleep. Who regulated this process to provide what we need?



Moreover, if we had only the warmth of the sun and the protection of the atmosphere we would want something more-beauty. Our clothes provide warmth and protection, yet we design them also to look beautiful/knowing our need for beauty, the designer of the sunrise and the sunset also made the view of them to be simply breathtaking. The Creator who gave us light, energy, protection and beauty deserves our thanks. Yet some people insist that He does not exist. What would they think if they a watch in the desert? An accurate and working watch? A beautiful designed watch? Would they not conclude that there does exist a watchmaker. One who apperciates beauty. Such is God who made us.

PROUD MUSLIMA
ANNO

Answer 1

I suggest you read a bit more. Not even the Vatican supports that bleak argument anymore.

Answer 2

I don't understand why people continue to try and make converts on this site.

Here's the thing. Hypothetically, suppose that a person does believe that there is a God or gods or at least some higher being based on the fact of the complexity of the universe. Your whole argument trying to lead people to faith in Christianity (or Islam) breaks down is right after that.

There is as much, probably more, evidence based on nature that it's creator is not good. Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, malaria bearing mosquitos, millions who die for lack of simple hygienic conditions, endless wars where innocents die, powerful people who are allowed to tyrannize the masses of humanity throughout all of human history, etc. You can't be selective in your reasoning and just present all the shiny, happy things about the world, as if it is only beauty and goodness. It's dishonest. The way the world is taken at face value, if you believe in a creator and in gods as the ancients who believed that the gods were both good and evil, you will have chosen a more logical position.

But all the rest of your argument depends on getting people to believe in certain Christian (and Muslim) stories, not on observation of the world as it is. It takes getting people to believe that the world has not always been this way, something not based on observation, but on faith in misunderstood legends.

Why don't you just concentrate on church work among your congregation and community instead of trying to use this site as a means to proselytize?

Answer 3

That's right up there with the stupidest, most illogical arguments for the existence of god I've ever heard.
Everything you've just said works just as well if you were trying to prove evolution. All those reasons are why evolutionists say we are the only planet near us to have lifeforms more advanced than bacteria.
And we have proof that watchmakers exist. You can look them up in the phonebook, call them on the telephone ask all your questions and get immediate, direct answers. Which cannot be said for your god.

Answer 4

that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. the reason we have life only on this planet is because the other ones have bad distance and this planet happens to be in the right spot. it's just coincidence. quit trying to make sense of your false religious beliefs. why question why we are here or how we got here? does it really matter? no of course not. just enjoy life and be glad that we are alive instead of questioning why we are here. when you die you just rot in the ground. so what? get over it. it's not like we're going to be thinking or anything when we are dead so why does it matter? enjoy living your life by a bunch of rules instead of enjoying it just for a false sense of security just to find out that there is no heaven or hell and you wasted your life being good with nothing to show for it but a decaying corpse in the ground.

Answer 5

Natural process is not the same as manufacturing a watch. I understand how you believe. I am not trying to talk you out of that, but the discussion of evolution is not about a watch. Its about the desert.

Answer 6

Please stop commercializing religion. If I want to believe in God, I'll seek him myself. The reason why I stopped believing was because I had been taught religious education, I learnt a bit of Islam, christianity, Hindusism etc but in the end which one is true? Sure you think it is Islam because you've been born and raised as a Muslim, it's easier for you.

Answer 7

Watches aren't biological organisms - that's the most stupid argument... if you're gonna argue against evolution at least use logic and reasoning

Answer 8

wow. how do you actually reach into your head and remove logic, reason and intelligence?

how does your lack of logic allow you to jump from A to M, without touching ANY of the letters in between?

amazing how you have extracted reason and logic from your mind. you just showed everyone that a wristwatch cannot evolve, so (in your mind, rattling around) that translates to biological life...??? YIKES!

cheers! i hope you get better some day!!

Answer 9

ur question is soo long... I dont feel like reading it all.
BUT
there is no such thing as god.
Since there is no such thing as god then he didnt make the earth...


All i have to say is we let u believe what u want let us believe wat we want to.


http://web.satanism101.com/statements.html

Answer 10

And who created God?

Your premiss is based upon the concept that humans came first and the universe was built around their needs. But the universe came billions of years before humans. Humans are the result of the effects of the building of the universe. Evolution is what microbes do given 4.5 billion years to develop.

Unlike religion, science is objective and it seeks to be coherent. That is, all of the parts have to fit together. Science has consistently trumped religion at every turn. This is because science is the modern way of understanding the universe while religion is based upon man's ignorance.

When early man looked up at the stars, he had no concept what they were. He knew only that they were bright lights in the sky. No matter how high of a mountain he climbed, he could get no closer to the stars. Like you, he wonderd about who he was and where he came from and he was encouraged to draw the most simplistic conclusions. As such, the stars became gods.

The great writer H.L. Mencken wrote a brief essay exploring the lack of rational thought involved in the belief of the gods. Here it is:

Where is the graveyard of dead gods?

- H.L. Mencken

Where is the graveyard of dead gods? What lingering mourner waters their mounds? There was a time when Jupiter was the king of the gods, and any man who doubted his puissance was ipso facto a barbarian and an ignoramus. But where in all the world is there a man who worships Jupiter today? And who of Huitzilopochtli? In one year - and it is no more than five hundred years ago - 50,000 youths and maidens were slain in sacrifice to him. Today, if he is remembered at all, it is only by some vagrant savage in the depths of the Mexican forest. Huitzilopochtli, like many other gods, had no human father; his mother was a virtuous widow; he was born of an apparently innocent flirtation that she carried out with the sun. When he frowned, his father, the sun, stood still. When he roared with rage, earthquakes engulfed whole cities. When he thirsted he was watered with 10,000 gallons of human blood. But today Huitzilopochtli is as magnificently forgotten as Allen G. Thurman. Once the peer of Allah, Buddha and Wotan, he is now the peer of Richmond P. Hobson, Alton B. Parker, Adelina Patti, General Weyler and Tom Sharkey.

Speaking of Huitzilopochtli recalls his brother Tezcatilpoca. Tezcatilpoca was almost as powerful; he consumed 25,000 virgins a year. Lead me to his tomb: I would weep, and hang a couronne des perles. But who knows where it is? Or where the grave of Quitzalcoatl is? Or Xiehtecuthli? Or Centeotl, that sweet one? Or Tlazolteotl, the goddess of love? Of Mictlan? Or Xipe? Or all the host of Tzitzimitles? Where are their bones? Where is the willow on which they hung their harps? In what forlorn and unheard-of Hell do they await their resurrection morn? Who enjoys their residuary estates? Or that of Dis, whom Caesar found to be the chief god of the Celts? Of that of Tarves, the bull? Or that of Moccos, the pig? Or that of Epona, the mare? Or that of Mullo, the celestial jackass? There was a time when the Irish revered all these gods, but today even the drunkest Irishman laughs at them.

But they have company in oblivion: the Hell of dead gods is as crowded as the Presbyterian Hell for babies. Damona is there, and Esus, and Drunemeton, and Silvana, and Dervones, and Adsalluta, and Deva, and Belisima, and Uxellimus, and Borvo, and Grannos, and Mogons. All mighty gods in their day, worshipped by millions, full of demands and impositions, able to bind and loose - all gods of the first class. Men labored for generations to build vast temples to them - temples with stones as large as hay-wagons. The business of interpreting their whims occupied thousands of priests, bishops, archbishops. To doubt them was to die, usually at the stake.

Armies took to the field to defend them against infidels; villages were burned, women and children butchered, cattle were driven off. Yet in the end they all withered and died, and today there is none so poor to do them reverence.

What has become of Sutekh, once the high god of the whole Nile Valley?
What has become of:
Resheph Baal
Anath Astarte
Ashtoreth Hadad
Nebo Dagon
Melek Yau
Ahijah Amon-Re
Isis Osiris
Ptah Molech?


All there were gods of the highest eminence. Many of them are mentioned with fear and trembling in the Old Testament. They ranked, five or six thousand years ago, with Yahweh Himself; the worst of them stood far higher than Thor. Yet they have all gone down the chute, and with them the following:

Arianrod Nuada Argetlam
Morrigu Tagd
Govannon Goibniu
Gunfled Odin
Dagda Ogma
Ogryvan Marzin
Dea Dia Mara
Iuno Lucina Diana of Ephesus
Saturn Robigus
Furrina Pluto
Cronos Vesta
Engurra Zer-panitu
Belus Merodach
Ubilulu Elum
U-dimmer-an-kia Marduk
U-sab-sib Nin
U-Mersi Persephone
Tammuz Istar
Venus Lagas
Beltis Nirig
Nusku En-Mersi
Aa Assur
Sin Beltu
Apsu Kuski-banda
Elali Nin-azu
Mami Qarradu
Zaraqu Ueras
Zagaga



Ask the rector to lend you any good book on comparative religion; you will find them all listed. They were gods of the highest dignity - gods of civilized peoples - worshipped and believed in by millions. All were omnipotent, omniscient
and immortal.

And all are dead.