What did you think of the great climate change swinddle program?

Question

it basically proves that global warming and climate change is a natural process and caused by solar activity.

It has fully convinced me!!!

And when it comes to co2 emissions the oceans give off more than anything else. Humans only contribute to a single digit percentage each year.

Anyone else had their mind changed by this show?

Answer 1

It only went to prove that what I've been saying all along was right ! ! !

Answer 2

I'm not convinced either way now. I was a strong GW advocate - on moral grounds and common sense. It seems a straight forward thing to do to resolve this - plug the solar wind/cosmic ray cloud formation process into the model (assuming that it isn't there already). I took the trouble fo going back to the IPCC report and although there is copious mention of water vapour as a green house gas and solar heating input (which you would bloody well expect to be there) but I could find no reference to the cloud formation mechanism detailed in the C4 programme.

I would expect that the Anthropormorphic GW community to address the claims made. Does anyone know of any such rebutals regarding the above mechanism and its impact on the modelling?

Answer 3

I never did beleive the GW propaganda.
Should we be suprised by the ground breaking news that the Earth's temperature is actually controlled by the Sun's activity?
Mankind has done some terrible thing to the planet, with polution and deforestation and extermination of wildlife and habitats, but GW is not one of them.

Answer 4

Not at all. Check out RealClimate's response to the program if you're interested in the science behind GW at all.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/

Answer 5

Climate change has always been here (mini ice age ,frost fairs in the 1800,s) we just happen to live in an era that panics very easily

Answer 6

I remain unsure either way but I do think it is too early to ban things like cars and aeroplanes

Answer 7

You cant tax the ocean though can you mate !!

Answer 8

i have seen lands that have been turned from jungle into desserts by people in a matter of a couple of years ,because of the slash and burn method used by settlers and expanding agriculture,and i have seen rivers dry up because of deforrestation in many places in Africa and Mexico ,have you??

i live now by the side of a river in Mexico where,in 30 years 5 species of fish have become exstinct .
and part of the year the river is dry this is for longer every year because of over use of agriculture and deforrestation

but i am sure that all the thousands of people who have died by now because of Mans effects on the environment would have agreed with you that it was nothing to be concerned about

Is global warming a man-made menace?

not all there are natural cycles in the planets life
but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

some home truths

politicians and scientists who work for politicians have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change and change effects many people income,and most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.


in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification


in recent times thousands of people have died because of exessive heat,usually old people.in India ,Mexico and France,
deforestation causing desertification,the desert conditions causing very cold nights and scorching hot days

in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,the globe where they were got to hot for them .
and instead of producing food they are now needing it from some where else,and they will drastically effect the world food prices when they start buying water in the form of grains ,at any cost destabalising governments, in some countries ,could be the result
(are you seeing more Chinese around interested in agricultural lands ,we do here in Mexico)

,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year
and all of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were no desserts.

collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,

as far as the food production is concerned, Global warming or some of its effects are serious,rising seas result in landloss

each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

more landloss because of desertification every year,we have less areble land to produce food ,for an extra 70 million people ,

and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,
and there are less and less farmers to do it..
who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers
who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,
because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing

RISING SEAS
The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.
this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.

Global warming is in theory reversable,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen,

At least not untill we are all in the middle of planetary disastres and it becomes a battle for the survival of humanity every where.

SOLUTIONS
if you want to help the planet ,plant a tree every week ,if everyone on the planet did we we would be able to reverse the destructive processes

reduce carbon emisions,and they are already working on that by alternative forms of energy and regulations on carbon producing materials,aerosol cans,burning rubbish,industrial chimneys,powerplants etc.

the capture of carbon and the production of water and assist the aquiferous manta.

the world bank pays large subsidies for reforrestation to capture carbon and the best tree for this is the Pawlonia

Waterharvesting projects ,such as millions of small dams.to redirect over ground waterflows from the rains into the ground to supply subteranian water supplies.

the protection of existing forrests.

stop building more highways,urban planning to include vegetation stop building cities encourage people to return to the land to conduct their business from there which now has become possible thanks to the internet.

education to motivate people to auto sufficiency by building more home food gardens.

education on environmental awareness
education on family planning to curb over´populaion

Agricultural education and improvements to follow the principals or sustainability and soil management.

more environmental or land ,design to prevent bush fires,such as--fire breaks

,more dams.regulations and control for public behaviour

alternative effeciant public transport to discourage the use of the internal conbustion engine

recicling wastes,limit water use

i am a Permaculture Consultant for the department of Ecology for the regional government in Guerrero Mexico
http://spaces.msn.com/byderule

Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has
come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,
his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into 50 languages and won the best book award in 2003.