Did you know that our "friends" in Saudi Arabia have sentenced a raped woman to be whipped 90 times for the "crime" of being alone with a man she was not related to?
What do you think of their culture, ladies?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html
2007-03-09
13:56:48
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For those who raise the point of Priest scandals --- this is their LAW, the families of these women will often stone them out of shame. When WE find people behaving this way there is outcry from our people. For THESE people, it is considered correct and just punishment.
2007-03-09
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update #1
Gotta love the reply below that I must be in th KKK. You don't see anyone DENY that what I say is true and is their way. Are ladies who think this is wrong in the KKK too? Fool.
2007-03-09
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Look at E's reply --- it is her fault for being with the man!!!!!! My god.
2007-03-09
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1) Islam (mainstream) considers their holy texts utterly true and without fault or error.
2) This is 95% of the population, not a fringe group, not extremists.
3) I encourage people to read these quotes IN CONTEXT by reading pre-9/11 translations of the same texts (free online). DON'T just believe me. I'm not even saying anything myself.
4) Read what Allah and his Prophet say about women, and remember that they believe this is literally true.
5) Ask one to deny the truth of any one of these. See how many will do it on their word as a member of Islam and servant of Allah.
Not one will if you tell them the source it comes from unless they are one of the few who are trying to start the revolution that will bring Islam into the 21st century (YEAH!).
Here's what they have to say:
Tabari IX:113"Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."
Tabari I:280"Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."
Qur'an 4:3"If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with orphans, marry women of your choice who seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to do justice (to so many), then only one, or (a slave) that you possess, that will be more suitable. And give the women their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, eat it with enjoyment, take it with right good cheer and absorb it (in your wealth)."
Qur'an 4:11"Allah directs you in regard of your Children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah."
Bukhari:V1B22N28"The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.' When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.'"
Muslim:B1N142"‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"
Qur'an 4:43"Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving." [The Qur'an claims women are unclean and polluted—worse than dirt.]
Bukhari:V4B55N547"The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.'"
Qur'an 33:59"Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better."
Qur'an 4:15"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them."
Bukhari:V4B52N143
V5B59N523"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N524"The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet's wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?'"
Ishaq:593"From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another."
Bukhari:V3B48N826"The Prophet said, ‘Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, ‘Yes.' He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"
Ishaq:584"Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman."
Ishaq:185"In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards."
Qur'an 24:31"Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands..."
Qur'an 24:34"Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving."
Ishaq:469"The Apostle said, ‘Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa'd.'"
Tabari VIII:62
Ishaq:496"Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, ‘Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.'"
Ishaq:496"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
Qur'an 24:1"(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."
Qur'an 24:6"And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth."
Moon Bats. HE HE HE HE. As a democrat I STILL find that funny!
2007-03-09 14:21:37
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answered by mckenziecalhoun 7
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Please don't relate islam to the Saudi's. Their royal family accepts to abide by the islam dictated by very radical muslims called Wahhabies. This results in some really stupid laws, e.g. someone told me when I was in Saudi Arabia that somebody who steals a radio from a car will have his hand cut but might legally be considered innocent for stealing a whole car.
Saudi's are perhaps the worst muslims ever. Don't refer to their twisted ideas about islam.
2007-03-13 02:16:50
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answered by hamza 2
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I think these middle eastern countries are still living in the middle ages.
What will happen every all Saudi/Iranian/Syrian women got up and protested by having no more children for the beasts.
Also, The woman on Fox news asked we write the embassy in Saudi Arabia to protest and BEG the king to not scar this woman for life (if she survives the lashing)
2007-03-09 14:06:33
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answered by me 2
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Yet another example of liberal hypocrisy.
This is the Muslim culture - we must not try and change their 7th century mentality, irregardless of the human suffering endured or the inhumane treatment of half their population.
These are the same far left moon bats who want legal representation and human rights for the terrorists (and to hell with the law abiding and peaceful citizens in this region).
2007-03-09 14:08:19
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answered by LeAnne 7
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Cultural relativism is crap in cases like this and anyone who hides behind this to justify what is being done to this women is a knit. Hiding violence and abuse behind a religious pretext whether it be Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, etc. etc. is a bunch of bologney. Honestly I don't care what you believe as long as you have some common human decency which apparently is severely lacking in this case.
2007-03-09 14:48:08
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answered by langstaff 3
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you forget this part
"She met the man at a shopping mall and, after driving off together, the blackmailer's car was stopped by two other cars bearing men wielding knives and meat cleavers"
technically she deserves because she broke a law in her country , by being with a man that is not her husband.
but the punishment does seem really harsh.
AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS IN KKK?
what are they doing to people who are not the same skin color as you?
2007-03-09 14:02:11
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answered by PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL TEEN! 4
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Cultural diversity at it's best don't ya think.
Honor killings are still okay over there too.
2007-03-09 14:01:19
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answered by Anonymous
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I think if I look at the news sometime, there will be some priest scandal or molestation with a Caucasian male. Would it be fair of me to ask "what do you think of this race?
Or if I pointed out a black man who robbed a store. would it be fair to ask "what do you think of this race?"
Don't judge millions of people based on the actions of a select few.
2007-03-09 14:01:10
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answered by JIMMY j 5
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If they ran the US, whip factories would spring up everywhere.
2007-03-09 13:59:59
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answered by TedEx 7
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Its shitty but honestly i don't think anyone will ever stop them.
2007-03-09 13:59:17
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answered by Brian L 1
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hey wait i minute........wheres the guys punishment at????? thats so sexist poor lady :(
2007-03-09 13:59:37
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answered by Anonymous
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