I aM GETTING SICK OF PEOPLE AGAINST THE FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

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gees people. Why are you so against fighting? It's not like it will actually hurt you so get over it!! Before people started to make hockey a prissy game, there would be fights all the time. Now suddenly a bunch of people want to change the whole game!! Some of you say fighting gives hockey a bad image. Well the TRUE fans would still love hockey no matter how much they would fight. A TRUE hockey fan would like it if they fought maybe 10 times in one game. A bad image enters the brains of the people who never cared about hockey in the first place, and its not like the NHL will be lost without the fake fans. Before in the 80's..and even when "Rocket" Richard was around..do you know how many fights he got in?! That was real hockey right there. When you think about it, fighting has ALWAYS been a part of hockey..and now a bunch of smart as.ses want to take it away because it gives a "bad image"? NOO!!! If you dont like it, then dont pay attention to it!

For example..i HATE soccer..its impossible for me to hate anything more than it. But you dont see me and all the other people who dont like it going in and trying to change it to make it more entertaining!

I still have gotten no good reason why there should be no fighting. Not even from that boy. That was everything i heard before..everything i already spoke about. Hockey without fighting, is like chocolate milk without the chocolate. ITS JUST PART OF THE WAY IT IS!!!! and plus, the fans do also like to watch it..i am one of the thousands of fans who get up on our feet and start cheering when a fight starts.

How is taking away fighting "best for the game"?! Then all the true hockey fans who buy season tickets and use so much money every year..THEY will stop using their money on the nhl because hockey has just been ruined. And according to you..the nhl needs the money..i agree..so why get rid of the fans who spend over 1000 dollars every year??!!

yes the main goal in hockey is to put the puck in the net..but what happens on the way there? THEY FIGHT!!!! its what makes hockey hockey dammit.

yes. amen to bob loblaw.

yes good point bob loblaw lol. If u asked people their favorite hockey player..and they were TRUE hockey fans..theyd probly say the bully of their favorite team. Its those idiots who THINK they are hockey fans who still say Gretzky..saying they saw him play the other day. lol. Its those people who dont pay attention enough to hockey to know he is retired that want to take away fighting. Sorry to be rude but dude..SHUT UP!

all the people who want to take away the fighting are the people who are generally "wussys". Well wussys, i thinki should inform you..HOCKEY IS NOT A WUSSY SPORT!!! IT IS MADE FOR TOUGH MEN WHO CAN TAKE PAIN! WHO KNOW HOW TO FIGHT AND WILL FIGHT TO DEFEND!!!!! if you want to watch something just as "wussyish" as you..go watch basketball.

GEES!!! why do u all keep going back to what Chris Simon did?!?! IM NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM!!! YES THAT WAS NOT A FIGHT BUT IM NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no im not the type who wants to see a player killed..just let them fight..you have just as much of a chance of getting killed while driving in a car as u do from participating in a fight.

Answer 1

AMEN. I totally agree with this. It is all of these new fans who can't stand the horror of a fight. What about the "true" fan? For those of you who think you know it would be better and not kill; the game just don't know hockey. It has always been a part of the game.
I will add this. If you went around and polled people who really know hockey and asked them what their favorite team/players are and they would be SHOCKED at the results. Tough guys ARE FAN FAVORITES. You would get a ton of answers like Jody Shelley/Ben Eager/Todd Fedoruk/Brian McGratton/Cam Janssen.

Put it this way- I have TONS of Oiler fans for friends. Ask them who their favorite Oiler was in the early 80's and 1 out of 5 would say Dave Semenko. On a team with Gretzky/Messier/Coffey/Anderson/Kurri etc. Amazing really. Also, fighters are usually the most genuinely nice and humble people in the game. The irony.


Clueless-what is your point exactly?? That other teams wanted them? Gretzky played for like 4 different teams so your comment seems, well.....clueless.

Answer 2

I want to make hockey the BEST possible sport it can be. If I think it would be a BETTER sport without the fighting, I will say so.

Nobody has "made Hockey such a prissy game". There is a 5 minute penalty for fighting, same as there has always been. If you see less fights, it is because TEAMS have decided that it is more important to give the 20th spot on the roster to a HOCKEY player, not an enforcer.

The NHL needs as many fans as it can get right now, and trust me when people see on the news what a Bertuzzi or Simon does, they stay away from games. I am not conjecturing, I KNOW these people.

You are correct, true fans do not stay away because of fighting, I am one of them. But when hockey arenas are filled with only the 500 true fans instead of the 20,000 they hold, the sport WILL die.

What made hockey gain so much popularity in the 80's? Two things: Wayne Gretzky, and the 1980 U.S. Olympic team win. Not a lot of fighting involved there.

And sorry, but the "we've always done it that way" is a very weak argument. I don't care what we've always done, I want what is best for the game. And I always thought that game was about scoring more Goals than your opponent. But if you like Chris Simon, Todd Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley, maybe each game should just be a bench clearing brawl between 40 players. Than the last person on their skates could put the puck in the net for a 1-0 win.

And maybe that would still be Hockey for you.

Not for me.


Bob Lobaw: If fighting is so important, and tough guys are fan favorites, just for fun look at the records of Dave Schultz, Tiger Williams, Sean Avery, and most other enforcers and see how many different teams they have been on.

Oh, but you're smarter than me, so you knew that, right?

How many different teams was Yzerman on? Lemieux? What happened when Messier was traded to the New York Rangers? My point is that there is nothing special about an enforcer. They may need to have ONE, but a PARTICULAR enforcer does not make a team better and does not draw fans anywhere NEAR what a HOCKEY player does.

Oh and by the way, the Canadians in 1976-1977 were the best team EVER, as you know. Who was THEIR enforcer????? Quick, NOW!

In any case, I am tired of arguing with you. If you feel that fighting has a place in hockey, you have a right to that opinion. But I do not appreciate being told I don't "know" hockey or am not a "true" fan.

Answer 3

Funny fact-- Most of the Americans I have talked to about hockey, who didn't really watch it, only liked it for the fighting. So I don't see why Bettman is so concerned about this "bad image" hockey has to a country that enjoys watching car wrecks in nascar and men being beaten unconscious in boxing. If Bettman really wanted to clean hockey up, he should administer longer suspensions to dirty plays (Cam Janssen only got a 3 game suspension-- WHAT A JOKE!) and I surely hope the NHL will justly suspend Chris Simon for the rest of the season and playoffs. PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE DIRTY HEADHUNTERS!
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This is to the Devils fan who commented here: I have NEVER heard any Leafs fan EVER want fighting out of the game. That hit was pure DIRT and does not belong in this game. Janssen had enough time (and then some) to move out of the way and not make the LATE hit. He also could have not tried to go for his head. He also could of at least appologized to Kaberle. The Leafs didn't fight Janssen, because the hit was so LATE, and behind play, that none of them even seen it. I can guarantee you this though: it will not be forgotten.

Answer 4

i kinda agree with you! there will always be fighting in teh world of ice hockey, they kinda belong together i suppose, heck, even i think about fighting sometimes when i'm out there on teh ice, and i'm in recreational hockey (started this year) and usually try not to fight if i can avoud it, know what i mean?! but fighting and hockey, well, as a referee i should say that i'm against fighting, and sometimes it can definatley go to far. i'd rather see good exciting hockey then a boxing comepetition even though it's great fun to see hockey players fight, haha. it can delay the game, so the players shouldn'd fight over nothing, specially not all the time! i understand it when people who are against fighting say that (coz i agree a bit with that). but i also think that if you are truelly against fighting you should seek somewhere else then in the world of ice hockey, coz they will always go hand in hand, and that's the way it should be! (even if the game is better then a fighting match, haha).
and no, it doesn't give it a bad image, indeed that is all in the hearts and heads of people who aren't really interested in hockey in the first place. glad we agree on that too ;-)

Answer 5

hockey is the best game on earth and fighting will always be apart of this game it is hockey and there so much more to it.
ill tell you one thing that with the new NHL rules to let players be more free now your starting to see more smaller players coming in the NHL that wouldn't handle it back in the 80's and 70's but there will still be that goon to piss you off and get you off your game and that's why in the next few years this smaller super stars will need to be protected like Gretzky, Bossy and others had to be protected. so fighting will be back even more then today's NHL but it will not be like it was back in the older days and 70's and 80's bench clearing brawls. any true hockey fan knows that fighting is a big part of this game and it will never go away. its not just about two guys fighting its about changing the momentum of the game and getting players pumped up and the fans going crazy and if you give a cheap shot to my star players or my goalie then i will send my taught guy after your ***.


GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Answer 6

Hockey is a game of skill, speed, and finesse not roller derby on ice. You can still have hard hitting just some people seem to need a freak show. Funny thing about fighting it disappears come the Stanly Cup. Sweden vs Finland was exciting!!!

You probably don't want to hear this, but the addition of Swedes, Czechs, Russians, and rest of the European players was a good thing because it emphasized speed and finesse.

NHL should be all about guys like Crosby, Ovechkin, Martin St. Louis, Jagr, Kovalchuk, Selanne, and all other guys who have skill not some marginal goons!!!!!

Funny thing is Gretzky and Lemieux was everything right about the game and brought in many fans during the 80's and 90's. Those where guys worth paying for.

Best way to improve the game eliminate about 8 teams , because over-expansion diluted the game. Guys would really have to know how to skate and show some skills. The marginal goon player would be driven out of the league. The cream would rise to thetop.

Answer 7

As a general rule, I am against enforcers and people who just fight.

that said, Hockey is a physical sport. However, a good hockey game does not require fighting. anyone who says that probalby has a team that is not doing so well or needs something to entertain its fans other then cherry picking and defense (yes, I am referring to NJ)

Checks can be brutal. They are also legal. Fights are sideshows. IN the Olympics, they ban fighting with a game suspension and the next game. Do people still watch? yes. Is it still hockey? Has anyone seen the miracle? people still watch that game (and not for all 0 of the fights). Hell yes it's hockey.

That said, it happens. Emotions run high and it's a very aggressive game. fights will break out. However, fighting for fightings sake is annoying. Fighting after somebody decks your key player is differnent.

there are different kinds of fights. Some are good, some are bad. I prefer to watch the hockey game.

Answer 8

Hockey is a rough sport, and tempers will flare from time to time. Fights result, which is only human nature and also provides extra fan entertainment. But..........

What Chris Simon did was not a fight -- a fight would have been if he dropped his gloves and went toe-to-toe with the guy. But he was too much of a coward to do that, preferring to take an unpredictable cheap shot with his stick.

You are clearly the type who would love to see a player paralyzed or even killed by one of these cheap shots. You would think that was so cool, now wouldn't you.............?????

Answer 9

i say they bring back fighting it will make the games more interesting.i never wwatched hockey when they allowed fighting to a point because i was almost oblivious to the sport. but now im one of the biggest hockey fans ever and even ill admit that the games are boring somethimes. all the do is go baack and forth casing a little rubber black thing. and if people dont approve of fights to F*U*C*K*I*N*G bad for them. hockey commisioners say S*H*I*T like "oh we'll poeple dont approve of fighting and some of the layers dont like it and it way to dangerous to be in a sport with the weapons that can be accessed(sticks,blades,pucks) and without fighting it wiill bring in more fans" well BS apparently their not aware of all the fans their LOSING. and if it was dangerous for the players then they shouldnt have got involved in professional hockey to begin with. if they wanted a sport with no fighting go play friggin golf for all i care but dont screw up hockey cuz ur a sissy.

Answer 10

What Chris Simon did was not fighting. He attacked someone. BIG difference. There's nothing like a good hockey fight when two players VOLUNTARILY drop the gloves and go at it. I say let them go at it. But a sucker punch or a swing of the stick is not a fight. It should not be allowed.