Why do liberals think outsourcing is bad?

Question

I asked the question about sweatshops (someone actually called it “slaveshop”…), and as I expected got very few answers that made any sense.

If we stopped outsourcing jobs by creating restrictions, don’t you think foreign countries would stop outsourcing their jobs to the U.S.? Besides the fact that that would harm the relationship of both countries, it would also hurt the U.S. and American workers. Economists…yes, the people who study the economy, agree outsourcing does not harm the economy. That’s 84% of economists by the way. Look it up.

Foreign companies employ tens of thousands of American workers; Honda, Mitsubishi, Toyoto, IBM, and the hundreds of other companies that are foreign but have factories in the U.S. One Honda factory may employ thousands of American workers, what would happen to those jobs if the Asian companies decided to stop hiring them? If outsourcing were stopped, we could save 10,00 jobs at the cost of 50,00.

As someone said, perhaps I should stop using logic and reason and instead act on emotions.

Answer 1

The "Liberals" doing most of the talking aren't doing any thinking; they're emoting. They won't even bother to look at the facts here; we are a net importer of jobs.

Libs think outsourcing hurts unions and therefore is bad; that's all they think about.
Yet unemployment in the US stands at 4.5%.

Answer 2

It depends on how you're looking at it. Outsourcing can cut down on the cost of running a business, but what about the worker who's being laid off after 25 years in favor of cheaper labor? The way most large companies use outsourcing is to avoid having to meet wage standards here in the U.S.

And yes, a lot of foreign companies use American labor. But think about it this way: Would you purchase a car from Honda if top execs came out and said that they absolutely refuse to use American labor because the cost of employing workers here is just too high? Probably not, and a great majority of the country would agree.

Answer 3

Granted, but at the same time in Mexico there is a Energizer battery factory where the workers live in the slums surrounding the factory. I would have nothing against Energizer doing this if they paid a comfortable wage for which their workers could afford houses and food.

Really how do you think they can accomplish such low cost of manufacturing? They do it entirely by poisoning the environment and paying too little to allow workers to live off of. If they paid their workers well, there won't be an advantage to moving to those nations and US workers would still have jobs.

It isn't just the manufacturing jobs either. Companies have been trying to off load highly skilled programming and engineering jobs to firms in India and China. Fortunately the language barrier has made this difficult and many companies were forced to higher back the employees they laid off.

Answer 4

Not everyone agrees with your 'logical facts' and assumptions. I don't believe we have to outsource every friggin thing, INCLUDING Harley Davidson motorcycles and things like that that were originally U.S. oriented. From what I've seen, we do a lot more of that, percentage speaking, than other countries. But then, here I sit with about the same thing that you do, assumptions and guesswork and no real facts and proof. Just thinking, really.

And you may actually be right...I just wish we could keep more things around here than we do. I know some friends of mine that used to work for SBC, answering the phone for tech support. Now if you call them you get the people from india that I can't understand and they aren't always that nice, either.

Answer 5

Did you know that 84% of all statistics are made up on the spot? I do, because 84% of economists are statistically unlikely to agree on the title Economist. Outsourcing is fantastic for American Corporations, who get a cheaper work force to manufacture the goods they sell to American Citizens. Unfortunately, those American Citizens become unemployed in the process, and can't afford to buy such goods. Perhaps you should actually begin using Logic, and stop repeating partyline rhetoric (which is a poor substitute, I don't care what the Republican Whip told you). The American Economy involves more than just the massive corporations who hold most of the money, it also relies on consumers. If those consumers don't have incomes, then what use are imported consumables?

You'll find it quite impossible to engage in intelligent and useful debate, until you stop treating your opponents as inferior. Arrogance is not intelligence. If we want to move forward as a country, it's imperative that we stop blasting eachother for minor differences and start looking for common ground to work from. Partisanship is killing our way of life.

Answer 6

go ask your question in Michigan... I think someone there may have an answer for you...

a company here that employed 10,000 moves to mexico... and a honda company that employees 1,000 moves here...

hmmm... yeah, that will work out well...

outsourcing... AS A GENERAL IDEA... is technically ok...

but free trade to countries that control their currency mixed with outsourcing... it is nightmarish...

and why don't you cite some of your sources... frankly I have better things to do than look up every number everyone posts on here... the MAJOIRTY of which are wrong when I do look them up... not that you numbers are wrong...

and can conservatives ever actually talk without insulting others?

Answer 7

economies may show growth but workers lose their jobs and any country that moves too much of its manufacturing base offshore suffers in the long run as middle class workers lose jobs they get lower paying jobs this adversely effects local economies in areas that outsourced those job that adds to the base of under employed. making less money they spend less on durable goods and services. this effect is felt over a longer term that most economists follow.

Answer 8

Outsourcing isn't bad by itself. I think its the outsourcing overseas. The argument it takes money out of circulation. Those people that companies pay overseas are not as likely to put that money back inot the American economy.

Answer 9

India now has the 2nd largest population of Billionaires more than Japan. We don't outsource to Japan. We will outsource ourselves out of being the commercial giant we are. Our population of citizens will be dependent on the Government for support and we will become a communist nation.

Answer 10

You forget that the Japanese car company profits go back to the mainland. The point is we are giving away our industrial might. Not to mention that when we outsource to other countries they need more oil and that raises demand and our prices go up. So how much did you save at Wal-Mart?

Answer 11

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