what to do about unfair dimissal ??

Question

I was hired just 31/2 weeks ago but was just fired for asking My lead hand "what do you want me to do now " I know it sounds strange but I really liked that job and thought I was doing well. Some of the people told my lead hand that I was learning really quick and it seems like that was when it started to go bad. It seems to me that I could do nothing fast enough or good enough to please him. It has not just been me that he hassled but he made life unbearable for several of my fellow workers, I was the second one to be fired in the past week. I know that there is a 3 month probation period but I really think someone needs to take this insecure brute to task. The co. seems to be short handed a lot. anyone help???

Answer 1

Al,

I can help you out here.

First, it's too late to get your job back. Not only were you on probationary period but companies rarely hire back someone who's been fired. On a new hire probation, the company does not have to provide you or anyone a reason for the dismissal. Once an employee is fired, even if they realize it was a mistake, they do not bring that persons back. It makes management appear fallible and weak. That could open them up to employees citing it as an example (i.e. if they fire me, I can argue to get my job back! They did it for ) They can't have that.

As for the supervisor, if he's as ruthless as you describe, he'll get fired. Anytime a supervisor/manager fires someone, they must justify it to upper management. If they get into a habit of routinely firing people, management is going to start to wonder if the supervisor is the problem. There's a cost to replacing someone. There's the cost lost in recruiting, training and paying the last person, plus the time and productivity lost while replacing them. It adds up as you keep firing people. The same goes for when people keep quitting. If too many people quit one department in a short period of time, the manager is scrutinized. In both cases, it's not uncommon for a manager to be removed or even fired. You can't have high turnover at a company. It's hurts the bottom line too much.

There have been a few times I was either fired or quit because of a difficult manager. And in every case, that manager was either removed or fired within 6 months. Often, it was because others quit or were fired too and it became apparent that the manager was the problem. The unfortunate part is that you suffer too because you have to find another job. But that's life (it's not fair!)

-- Liam

Answer 2

I say move on, and count your blessings. Attempting to expose him you will only come off as a disgruntled former employee. The lead hand sounds like a sociopath who doesn't like anyone who might upstage him. This personality type often hides behind a pleasant facade, yet the bully represents the other end of the sociopathic type.

They use people to get ahead, often marrying for money or position. They discard people who are no longer an avenue for advancement of their desires, or those who are perceived as a threat. They flatter those above, and lie about those below them. As such, they often brown-nose their way to higher positions. They have no conscience, and some will kill to get their way. Check the link below for detail, or search sociopath. There is also a critically aclaimed book called "The Sociopath Next Door."

Answer 3

Most of the time it's just not worth fighting it. Just move on.

But if you do feel that it is important to fight the issue, the big thing that you need is documentation. Who did what and when? You need to be able to prove what was said and done and what was agreed to.

Even at that, an employer can generally fire a new employee (less than 90 days) for any or even no reason.

Sorry.

Answer 4

There is nothing you can do about getting your job back as dismissal is allowed without a reason. You could send a polite professional letter to the lead's management and let them know why you feel there is a high turnover rate. And eventually, if more people let management know and his retention rate remains poor, he will eventually get what he deserves.

Answer 5

could be a plan for the owner to get out of paying full time benifits! by saying you do not meet the required probation!
who knows i would move on!

Answer 6

In a probation period, unfair dismissal doesn't apply. They can dismiss you for any reason, or no reason. You basically don't have a case.

Answer 7

Maybe he thought that you weren't forward thinking and that you shouldn't have had to ask. Sorry but look for a new job.

Good luck.

Answer 8

Oh my! PLEASE tell me this is not Pizza Hut you had worked for ????