Was Simon's attack the worst you've seen?

Question

To me it appeared far more vicious than McSorely's or Bertuzzi's. Had he connected cleanly it could have been tragic. What do you think?

Forget the end result, but the attempt, and the intention?

Answer 1

No.

Scott Niedermayer did something similar 8-9 years ago.

McSorely's yielded a worse injury and was premeditated just because Brashear wouldn't fight him again (after Brashear had kicked his *** earlier)

Domi elbowed the hell out of S. Niedermayer with a flying leap to the head.

Mario Lemieux was involved in some sort of "sword fight" years ago - haven't seen it.

Bobby Clarke broke the ankle of some Russian at the '72 summit series with an axe chop.

The recent and obvious Bertuzzi incident.

Rocket Richard, from what I've read about it, is probably the dirtiest. Tomahawked a guy over the head, then punched a linesman.

Answer 2

Pretty sick stuff. I saw Hunters hit back in the day, McSorley's was kind of awful too, but I still say Brashear was embellishing a little (the stick hit his helmet) and as a result knocked his head against the ice leaving him lights out. Bertuzzi's was malicious but the resulting injury was a fluke. I personally think the cross check Kariya received to the head was the worst I've witnessed, though if Hollweg was as injured as he could have been (crushed wind pipe etc...) I might give that top honors. I'm sure historically there have been far worse, more vicious attacks though.

Answer 3

Yes it could have been worse but I think the reason it wasn't was bc, unlike Bertuzzi, he came face to face with his opponent rather than attacking from behind. This guy had a chance to react whereas Steve Moore did not.

One guy was back on the ice the next day, the other is in a small Ontario town trying to piece his life back together.

So, I guess I'd have to ask you which you'd prefer: having a guy swing a stick that weighs just several ounces at your head while standing right in front of you, allowing you some reaction time, or having a 240lb man jump on your back without warning and then use all his strength and weight to repeatedly bash your head into the ice?

Answer 4

wow some of you people don't know your hockey history to well do you. saying that Maurice the Rocket Richard slash some guy, well yes he did but that was after the other player slashed Richard over the head and the ref didnt call anything thats the way it was back in the day the Rocket was not protected by the NHL and he was slashed over the head many many times over.

that insident your talking about was the Rocket was coming down the right wing and the other player slashed the Rocket over the head which he needed 26 stitches for that, but he laid on the ice for several seconds and realize the ref wasnt calling anything and then he said thats enough and took the matter in his own hands, he got back up and slashed that other player over the shoulder not the head and then took on two players at the same time then the ref came from behind the Rocket and pind his arms together then the player from the other team came up and had a free shot at the Rocket so the Rocket was defencive and got punched in the head so then he turned around and punched the ref, then the league suspended the Rocket for the remender of the regular seaon and the playoffs, then Campbell had the nerves to show his ugly face at the Montreal Forum and then fights and fires brock out that which became the Rocket Richard Riot in downtown Montreal.

so next time get your facts right to the people that said this about the Rocket.

R K>>>>its funny how they only say what the Rocket did eh! well if you look up the Rockets sites and you could even read a book or even see the movie about the Rocket. its funny how they leave the things that happened before he slashed the other player and then hit the ref. well i just told you.

GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Answer 5

I saw the McSorley and Bertuzzi incidents and I'd have to say that the Bertuzzi one was the worst I've seen.

There was in the minor leagues an incident that I think is the worst I've heard of. One player jabbed the broken end of what remained of his stick into the face of an opposing player.

Don't recall what the punishment was for that, but that player should be doing time in a jail cell.

Answer 6

you know, i get sick of people calling Bertuzzi a goon.. I understand he took the cheap shot to the head. I've seen the clip a million times.. but you can't honestly expect me to believe that a punch in the head (or even neck) cause paralyzation. Bertuzzi took a cheap shot from behind with his hand, something that's happened a MILLION and one times in the NHL... and then gimpy.. or whatever his name is..a pile on of great proportions ensued... now.. it was a knee to the face by someone in the pile that broke that guys neck..
Moore i think his name was.
He was a goon.
the cheap shot that instigated Bertuzzi (on Naslund)
was ten times more cheap than Bertuzzi punching him in the head... it's not like he snapped his neck with his hands... the guy fell down and about 8 people jumped on his head.

Moore was a punk
he was taking cheap shots on Bert and Naslund... and when he angered the big man, tried to run away and cry on the bench.. lets not make excuses for goons when they get hurt for being goons.


Holweg also took a shot on Simon.
Simon hit him with a stuck, fine.
I would even like to change my previous stance on this.
at first sight i thought a longer suspension should be issued.
after reviewing the instance..
i think 10 games would do.
it would send a message that the NHL doesn't (blah blah blah)

but also, let's call a spade a spade...
if you instigate....

don't go crying to the league when someone puts you right in your place
... Holweg is a punk.
... Moore was a punk
... Simon is a marginal asset but at the end of the day... he's still on the punk end of the spectrum.

...Big Bert is a punk who happens to be a huge asset.
.... and if a guy broke his neck out of his own stupidity
so be it.

don't poke the bear in the zoo
... unless you wanna lose an arm.
no sympathy mr moore.
cry all you want.

you were a punk.. 4th line nobody...
who tried to start trouble with a big dog.
one of your own players probably broke your neck jumping on bertuzzi.

Answer 7

The Simon hit, Bertuzzi hit and McSorley hit were nothing compared to this.
In 1969, an exhibition game between the Boston Bruins and St. Louis Blues occurred in Canada. Ted Green, a Boston player with the reputation of being physically aggressive, swung and hit Maki on the head. Wayne Maki, a player who did not have the "physical" reputation that Green had, then turned and speared Green on the head with his stick, which fractured Green's skull and required the surgical insertion of a metal plate in his head. Green was out the entire season. At the time of the incident, the players did not wear helmets. You have to remember that hockey players back in the 60's and earlier swung their sticks plenty of times. Bobby Orr did it on occasion as did Gordie Howe. It was just the intensity these guys had and their desire to be the best.

Answer 8

Having had a concusion on the same exact type of hit, except it was floor hockey in a gymnasium and my head hit the monkey bars. I can tell you that you have no idea what you have done until you come out of it. I awoke in the hospital to stories from my parents I couldnt believe. I smacked my mother. I cursed the entire ride home. I chased kids around the gym with my stick. If in fact he did have a concusion which to me it looked like he did, (He was stupified looking after his head hit the boards) than I must say there is a good chance he didnt know he did it. If however he didnt have a concusion, Than yes it is in the among the worst cheap shots in hockey. The worst one in my opinion was when Dale Hunter of the Washington Capitals decked Pierre Turgeon of the Islanders in a play-off game right after he scored a goal from behind he drove him into the boards and Turgeon didnt play-off another game that year. He was the Isles best player. It was the worst thing I ever saw.

Answer 9

No it wasn't the worse. How can you people even compare it to all the stuff that has happened in the history of hockey. And how can you said it was worse than Bertuzzi's? Have you people not seen what had happened, and what Steve Moore still has to go through today.

Answer 10

I do think McSorely's and Bertuzzi's were worse, just because the resulting injuries were worse. However, Simon's suspension should be lengthy, and he should also face criminal charges as McSorely did. There was an intent to injure, and the fact that it happened during a sporting event should be no excuse.