how does it make you feel when our president says he'll automatically veto any sort of timelined withdraw?

Question

when the people have spoken and have said we dont want to be there any more and should start being SOME of our boys home with a phased withdraw

Answer 1

Even the top brass now is admitting that there is no military solution.

We have made a shambles out of a bad situation that was also of our making.

A timed withdrawal will cause the "insurgents" to scale back and save their resources so they can take over after we are gone. Something they will do in any event.

It's like we set a house on fire and now want to keep running around throwing oil on it to make it go away.

Answer 2

I don't think anyone gets the problem in real terms. Reagrdless of what you think of Bush or the war or how it all came about we are in fact fighting an enemy capable of great destruction in that country as well as in ours. So let's just put in all the media that we will be leaving on such and such a date and they can just sit back and wait for us to go and then destroy the infrastructure without interference. They can also claim to have beaten the United States Of America in war and it will be true. We ran out in Viet Nam, Cambodia, Bosnia and everywhere else we have been due to public opinion and they WON! I want the troops home to but I do not want to tell the enemy when that will happen so they can begin making plans for the day after. Imagine if we had told Hitler when we would be going home, or the Kaiser or for that matter mother England during the revolution knowing we would stop fighting on a certain day. I would veto it too.

Answer 3

Speaking from a veteran's stand point, I feel that the president has overstepped his bounds and the slow phase out or withdraw of our troops is needed. The original goal has been accomplished. Further troop build up is futile. Don't the elected officials remember history? As far back as Korea we have been dumping Americans into an abyss that only serves to thin the male population. How many wonderful and amazing people were lost due to ignorance and greed over the past 50 years?

Answer 4

1) Just because it was probably wrong to go to war initially doesn't mean it is the right time now with the current situation to pull out the troups.
2) In the role of Commander in Chief he has every right to oversee and direct the course of the war (using the advice of others).
3) The separation of powers gives the President the right to veto legislation.
4) There are proceedures that allow for the Legislature to override a Presidential veto given enough support.
5) The people he should most be listening to for advice are probably in the Defence Department and State Department not the Legislature or vox populi.
6) Having said all that, President Bush is reputed to be "autocratic, bullying, vindictive, ruthless, stubborn, petulant, and petty person, a typical spoiled child who wants people to be obsequious towards him, who holds grudges and lets loose profanity-filled tirades against those who cross him"--not the sort of man I would choose for the Office of the President, nor someone that I believe will fullly listen to the advice of others nor easily be swayed from his chosen course of action.
7) To quote Winston Churchill: "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." and "Dictators ride to and fro on tigers they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry."
8) So how do I feel about it all: dazed and despondent.

Answer 5

We here can only give our FEELINGS on a time line withdrawl.To say, so many will be home by a chosen date would be so difficult to do. The training of the Iraqi Army is not done. Unfortunately we are already there..to leave now would leave those people in a such a mess we cant even imagine. I agree with one other answer..ask some of the men and women that are there. My hubby's there ..is he happy to be away from home, loved ones and all of the things we take for granted here?? NO, but he and most others feel strongly about what they are trying to accomplish. Those who say this is ALL about oil and private corporations making a buck should perhaps take a history lesson on what the people there have endured. The media only chooses to show the negatives.There are many positive things happening there also. I do want my husband home but this is his job and chosen career. So that we and hopefully, the people of those countries, can sleep in peace.

Answer 6

I hope you know that in the Constitution only the PRESIDENT is commander-in-chief of the military. Congress does NOT have the power to overrule the President in military matters. What Congress can do is that they can cut of funds for the war, however the public will think that Congress (the Dems) are abandoning brave U.S. soldiers. Congress does not want to do that. I am a liberal, yet I support the President because the Dems are trying to destroy our Constitution.

Answer 7

Define "the people" please. by "the people", are you speaking for every single American citizen, or are you speaking for the lazy hypocrites that go through their days, riding on the freedoms that they have been given by MY SON, and every other TRUE AMERICAN HERO? Have you actually spoken with a single U.S. Military member, and truly listened to what he or she said? Some of them want to be back home here... most of them do, yes. But most of them would, if given the choice, freely choose to remain where they are, with little food or water, packing 50 - 100 pounds of extra body armor (in addition to the 75 pounds of basic uniform and supplies), in almost unbearable conditions, being told by Iraqi CITIZENS, that they are wanted AND NEEDED there, then come home and sit on their asses playing video games, or sitting behind a desk from 9 to 5, pushing a pencil around, for someone else who is on vacation in the Bahamas. My son has told me in his own words, that he is where he wants to be, and is glad he is there. my son joined the Army the day he turned 18, and he joined of his own free will. He voluntarily joined in a state of war, and has earned the right to stand proud. I doubt very seriously, that you have earned that same right. I am glad, however, that you are taking advantage of your MILITARY - given freedom of speech and opinion, to say what you want to say.

Answer 8

when the people speak, it falls on deaf ears now. our country has been taken from us gradually along with our rights in the past 7 years..this regime is actually a dictatorship in disguise,.look at all the power the law enforcement
and intelligence services have over all the citizens now..it is getting worse, we will never regain the freedoms we once had.

Answer 9

I think we do need to get out of Iraq and stop trying force democracy down people's throats and fix the problems that are going on right here at home in the USA!!!!!!!!!

Answer 10

I don't think Bush could make things much worse. He's not going to be president much longer. It would make no sense to impeach him because by the time everything got investigated and the arguments were over, he wouldn't be president anymore anyway.
Let's look forward people. Time to vote in someone who can maybe fix this mess.