According to the Chaos Theory; you can not get order out of chaos. So how can the Big Bang Theory be correct?

Question

The Big Bang theory implies that our universe was created from a chaotic state. In my opinion, scientist have contradicted themselves.

Answer 1

You are not using the ideas of Chaos Theory in any sensible way. Chaos Theory says that the solution to certain differential equations that describe certain physical systems are so sensitive to initial conditions that the time evolution of those systems is essentially unpredictable, even though the system itself is classically determined. Chaos Theory does not in any way say you cannot get order out of chaos---basically, it says that some deterministic systems appear chaotic.

The Big Bang theory does not include time zero, the first instant of the Universe---it starts around 10^-30 seconds later, and takes us to the present day. It says nothing about creation, as such.

Your argument is just wrong. A more sophisticated anti-scientific argument is to use the Laws of Thermodynamics to argue that the evolution of order from chaos (or life from non-life, or complex animals from less complex animals) is impossible because entropy must always increase. This argument, too, is incorrect, but for more interesting reasons.

Answer 2

"Chaos Theory" is a branch of mathematics that deals with certain types of systems in which the specific outcomes cannot be absolutely predicted. It has nothing to do with the Big Bang Theory.

Your point about "order being created out of chaos" not being possible is acutally a common misstatement of the principle of entropy. What that law actually says is entirely different. In this case, a correct statement would be that order can emerge from chaos--but only at a net energy cost. Which is exactly what scientists have observed.

Answer 3

The big bang theory is correct.
It started from nothing,then progressed as a big bang.
The only chaos that existed was the quantum effect which allowed the universe to evolve the way we experience it.
The universe evolves according to rules that vary only slightly due to the principle of uncertainty.
Even in the apparent chaos of a super nova explosion the distribution of forces is virtually perfect.
If we had all the information available and the ability to process it we could predict the exact result even to the eventual formations of solar systems like ours.

Answer 4

I think that probability and chaos are attempts at explaining things as best as we can because the human mind cannot possibly take it all in and see everything there is to see. I think every event has a perfect set of causes no matter how seemingly infinite or chancy, but we can't see it all, so we say that it occurred by a certain probabilty. Chaos tries to explain away the fact that not everything fits together as we would like it, and must be chaotic. In short, I really think the universe is perfectly ordered at any moment in time and that there is an intelligence behind it.

Answer 5

You misunderstand chaos theory entirely.

Chaos theory says that with a very very tiny initial change in conditions, you may have a very large change in the end result. So a 1/2 degree change in water temperature may be the difference between a category 5 hurricane and nothing at all.

As for order coming from chaos, what happens every time and icicle forms from running water?
What happens everytime a mass of organic matter about 1 gram in weight becomes a 180 lb human within 18 years? Order from disorder.

Answer 6

Let's see. You clearly do not understand Chaos theory, and you clearly do not understand Big Bang theory. Yet, you feel qualified to form the opinion that there is a contradiction. Why not do a little research on your own about both, or either?

Answer 7

First, you don't understand Big Bang theory. Second, the laws of thermodynamics described in classical mechanics are not exactly the same at the quantum level. Third, the early universe was in extreme order. Only slight inconsistencies created the universe you see around you. The universe has definitly increased in entropy since the Big Bang.

Answer 8

Your answer oversimplifies the situation. In particular, in addition to physics, you might find it worth taking a look at thermodynamics in particular.

For starters, your question conflates order, entropy and energy. With our present understanding of physics, the Big Bang theory holds that the universe started not only from a highly ordered state as other answerers observed, but also a highly energetic state. So as the universe expanded and cooled off and evolved, some parts of the universe fell into disordered arrangements, and others fell into more ordered arrangements, and the direction is not all in one direction. Hot steam starts in a highly disordered state, and as it cools off it can become condensed into a liquid and even eventually into ice. Still other systems can find more complicated states of equilibrium and form complex structures by taking in energy. Even water takes in a bit of energy to form ice crystals.

Albert Einstein said "make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler". Almost any notion can be oversimplified and taken out of the context to the point where it seems nonsensical and loses all meaning. You might find that if you took at a more detailed picture of the current scientific understanding of how the universe evolved the picture fits together with more consistency.

Answer 9

The Big Bang theory is just that - a theory, becausewe will never truely know how the unverse was started.

As you said, we can't get order from chaos, but look around you, does the world seem that orderly right now? Does the universe itself even look remotely orderly on scales that you don't normally think about (sub-atomic or enormous) rather than just what you learn in science class?

Answer 10

Actually, chaos theory shows, among other things, how seemingly random behavior can lead to complex, orderly, and predictable patterns; so if anything, it contradicts your assumption. In a similar manner, simple natural laws lead to orderly structures ranging from snowflakes to spiral galaxies.

Many things that seem contradictory make sense once you educate yourself about them.