Why don't the alternative programs to Alcoholics Anonymous, such as RR, publish their success rate?

Question

Is it because they have very little success rate, except for those that sell the books?

I did not ask about AA. I asked about the alternatives to AA. Obviously, the last answer is brainwashed by the alternative treatment industry, like someone in AA is brainwashed by the 12 step industry.

Answer 1

I wouldn't believe their "success rates" even if they did. Most "alternatives" to AA exist to bash AA, which is stupid. The key to freedom from addiction?: POWERLIFTING. Try it.

Love Jack

Answer 2

No. because of the fact they could take sometime at a time. They do have a sturdy help equipment, and pal equipment, yet they are going to continuously be alcoholics, i assume that each and every day they stay far off from the eating is seen a fulfillment. however the temptation will continuously be there.

Answer 3

Alternatives to AA don't have raving successes. In the short run, when media attention is high, they do. But when the limelight fades and the grind of daily living starts dragging them down, they return to drinking.

Answer 4

Why doesn't AA?

They hid their 1989 Triennial report for years before it was leaked; it showed that AA has a 5% success rate.

SOS, SMART, WFS, LifeRing and others don't have the funding or a wide enough sampling to do their own major surveys. One was recently done by the University of Virginia, but those statistics won't be out for another year or two.

The "Handbook of alcoholism treatment approaches: Effective alternatives" lists 48 recovery methods (AA ranked 38):
http://www.behaviortherapy.com/whatworks.htm
ACT programs that deal with dual diagnosis (substance abuse and mental illness) use Motivational Interviewing, a form of Motivational Enhancement, rated #2. RR and SMART use a form of Cognitive Therapy, rated #13.

But who says a person NEEDS a group in order to quit? According to The Harvard Mental Health Letter (Volume 12, Number 4, October 1995):

"There is a high rate of recovery among alcoholics and addicts, treated and untreated. According to one estimate, heroin addicts break the habit in an average of 11 years. Another estimate is that at least 50% of alcoholics eventually free themselves although only 10% are ever treated. One recent study found that 80% of all alcoholics who recover for a year or more do so on their own, some after being unsuccessfully treated. When a group of these self-treated alcoholics was interviewed, 57% said they simply decided that alcohol was bad for them. Twenty-nine percent said health problems, frightening experiences, accidents, or blackouts persuaded them to quit. Others used such phrases as "Things were building up" or "I was sick and tired of it." Support from a husband or wife was important in sustaining the resolution."

Some studies have shown that AA may do more harm than good:

"There is also experimental evidence that the A.A. doctrine of powerlessness leads to binge drinking. In a sophisticated controlled study of A.A.'s effectiveness (Brandsma et. al.), court-mandated offenders who had been sent to Alcoholics Anonymous for several months were engaging in FIVE TIMES as much binge drinking as another group of alcoholics who got no treatment at all, and the A.A. group was doing NINE TIMES as much binge drinking as another group of alcoholics who got rational behavior therapy." (Rational behavior therapy: RR & SMART)
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html#powerless_binge

The Vaillant study, conducted by George Vaillant, Harvard professor, researcher, and AA Board of Trustees member, in an effort to prove that AA works, proved that AA fared no better than no treatment at all, but resulted in a MORTALITY rate that was 6 times higher. Vaillant said of the results, "Not only had we failed to alter the natural history of alcoholism, but our death rate of three percent a year was appalling."
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html#Vaillant

Who are you going to trust to run these studies, ASAM (American Society of Addiction Medicine)?:
http://www.peele.net/debate/talbott.html

or one of the other AA front organizations?:
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_a5.html#ca_front_groups

There are plenty of statistics out there, AA just doesn't want you to see them:
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html

Answer 5

because its anonymous.lol