Did God Condone the selling of women, and killing of children?

Question

Actually he commanded it

"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'"
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.) 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB

"The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Did these children have a choice to die before they were born?

Answer 1

I guess the Christians could defend such things......maybe their Satan hid their God's prozac.

Answer 2

The God in the Old Testament is portrayed differently than the God in the New Testament. In the OT God is portrayed as vengeful. In the NT Jesus challenged the notion that if, lets say, a father sins the sins will be passed on to the child, and if the child is born ill it is due to the parents' sinfulness. People in Jesus' time who had illnesses, were blind for example, were considered outcasts and sinners.

Also, some would say that God has given us free will. He did so in order for us to love him freely, in other words choose good freely. Another way of thinking about this is like parents who have unruly children and lets say that child is on drugs, the parent does not want the child to be on drugs but can the parent really change their childs mind? How much can you beg and plead and teach the child on the horrors of drug abuse?

Does this help?

Answer 3

Osh: What you are reading is a prophetic event "allowed" by God (God simply, doesn't intervene to stop it, therefore, He [God] claims responsibility for this). Remember; God will resurrect all people back to life later, at the return of Jesus Christ, to have a loving relationship with Him. (see: Revelation Chapter 20, verses 4 - 6 ) Since God started the whole "ball" rolling, He takes responsibility for Satan and evil - all incorporated into His Plan. God has our best interests in mind and in the end, EVERY human ever, born will WIN !!!

Answer 4

i stumble on that many in Abrahamic religions %. and decide a picture of God by technique of ignoring the area of their holy texts that coach God to be immoral and hateful. many non secular persons are under no circumstances interested in being intellectually disciplined and watching their faith objectively. they only decide to proceed to have self assurance because of the fact they're deeply vested in it. i stumble on there are in many circumstances 2 varieties; people who particularly do no longer understand the Bible o.k. and in basic terms get the nicer components in sounds bytes at church and those that have poured over it intensely inventing justifications (apologetics) for the no longer very sturdy issues. while i grew to become into nevertheless a Christian myself those kinds of passages stricken me so i began out to earnings extra intensely the apologetics. a number of them i could purchase yet at a definite factor it grew to become into in basic terms so needless to say a case of what variety of concern can we invent which would be a achieveable rationalization for why this does not make experience or is inconsistent. i understand human beings would be disillusioned with me for saying it yet it particularly is my experience. Thumbs down me all you want.

Answer 5

Now you have taken Scripture out of context. God was telling Israel what the result of sin would be. Remember? The wages of sin is death...if they lived in disobedience turning from the Lord God as His people to serve false Gods etc, then the result of sin would be these awful things. Both for the nation and the individual (David) - sin destroys your future. They were warned of these consequences when they entered Covenant with God in the beginning. By choosing sin over God, they choose their own consequences. God was simply telling them of the result of their choice.

Answer 6

Yes,he does.
To those who say that the OT no longer applies
see this
http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm URL

The girl who answered your question using this link a while ago was my sister.

To T J: At least Muhammad didn't hide what he did,right?

Answer 7

Yes! Anyone who has actually READ the ENTIRE Bible knows that God commands his followers to commit MANY atrocities.

Answer 8

Take it all with a grain of salt, it was valid in its day Im sure, but you seem to have a personal vendetta here, so nothing anyone says will satisfy you I bet.

God is love, God is in you and me and the air...I on the hand am not wonderful...so shut it.

Answer 9

God always "tells" people to do what they want to do, particularly when they're doing it to their enemies. It's really a hoot when you get two christian nations duking it out to the tune of conflicting commands from on high. (Or any two nations of the same religion, for that matter.)

Answer 10

he also killed tons of children (and men and women of course) in the Flood, then said "my bad" and promised not to do it again. that is until things get too bad down here, then we have to fight in a huge war that he wins.

Answer 11

Yes He did.
I've been told that to repent, He is now busy healing amputees.

I don't know what to believe....