Legend's match revisited. Harry Greb vs Stanley Ketchel. Who wins?

Question

15 rounds at middleweight between two of the toughest ever!

Answer 1

Hey Bluedevil...

I think this would have been an absolute war. Hagler-Hearns would be a walk in the park, compared to this...It would also be a dream for a CompuBox (laughs)...

Stanley was 5 foot 9 and about 170, Greb was 5 foot 8, and around 160.

I Think Ketchel was a real fighting machine, and was the 1900-1910 version of Harry Greb. I've been reading in the Jack Johnson biography "Unforgivable Blackness" that Ketchel used to make up stories to psyche himself up. He would pretend the guy he was fighting insulted his mother or father. He wouldn't go in just to win. He would go in with the intention of killing the other guy. Incredibly tough as well. He weighed in 2 and a half stones less than Jack Johnson for their Heavyweight title fight, and Jack Johnson uppercutted him so hard that the force of the blow sent both men over. Stanley did make it up after several minutes, and with four teeth missing from his mouth. He threw a massive volume of punches from every angle, and had an amazing record (52-4-4, with 49 KO's) and had unlimited stamina (in his prime). Everything you could ever want in a middleweight fighter.

Greb, however, I ranked as on of my top 5 all time pound for pounders (behind Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong), as his record is one of the most impressive of all time. In a 13 year career, he was an astonishing 260-21-17, with 49 knockouts. He was nicknamed the Human Windmill, and never seemed to tire. He just kept coming forward and punching. He famously beat Gene Tunney, a man who weighed in about 10 pounds heavier than him, and whom went on to win the Heavyweight title. He took on just about everyone, it appears, apart from Jack Dempsey.

But going head to head is a different matter, and I would have Greb to win in a fight scheduled for 15 rounds (decsion). But Greb never boxed more than 15 rounds; Ketchel did so on 11 occasions, and on 12th December 1907, he knocked out Joe Thomas in the 32nd round of a fight scheduled for 45, therefore affirming my theory that in his prime he never seemed to tire, and carried his power late. So on this basis, anything over 15 rounds, I would take Ketchel to count on Greb throwing all he had at him for the first 15 rounds, and then counting on Greb tiring, then coming on strong and knocking out Greb around the 25th Round.

Answer 2

GREB - W 259 (KO's 48) TF 299 - W pct 87% - KO pct 16% - wins over Levinsky[3], Gibbons{2} and Loughran[4] - KO'ed by K. Graves and J Chip - #7 ranked fighter (grossly overated)

KETCHEL - W 54 (KO's 49) TF 64 - W pct 84% - KO pct 77% - wins over Papke[3], O'Brien - KO' ed by J. Johnson and B. Papke - #6 ranked puncher
First boxer to regain Middle wt title
He was murdered over a woman when he was 24.

As long as Greb stays away from Ketchel, he can get generate a close but decisive 15 rd unanimous decision.

Answer 3

They counter one yet another whilst comparing the potential of their punch and the potential to take one. Greb could have had between the main suitable chins in boxing historic previous and Ketchel had an exceedingly sturdy punch. I even have Greb being the busier fighter and having a extra precise jab. Greb by skill of determination. 9 rounds-6. could have enjoyed to have seen this one.

Answer 4

Would rank with any exciting fight any one ever watched. Ketchel had more power in his punches but I think Greb would have been busier. Greb could take alot of punishment and he would in this fight. I would pick Greb by decision because I think he would land more punches each round. It would be a close fight.