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In Malachi 3 vs.8-9 it says " 8Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. "


does that mean they were cursed for NOT paying their tithes and were in the bible does it say that we still do today?(since were not under the old law)

Answer 1

Yes, they were cursed for not doing the things they had agreed to do in their(the jews) covenant relationship.
As jesus said, the new covenant is based on love. The things required under this arangement are not money based, rather they are based on putting our fellowman ahead of ourselves.
This is accomplished by doing the things jesus did, learning obedience, and teaching others the truths that jesus taught. Obedience can be observed by turning away from practices that god calls bad. Stealing, adultery, fornication, carrying on wrathful. We can humble ourselves to accept these standards, and find that not only do they protect us in many ways, but also will benefit us in the sense of freedom gained by doing so. This freedom is the freedom from fear and uncertainty. The freedom from concerns over the repercussions of living God dishonoring lives.
How is this? Well, the person who refuses to commit sins like fornication, adultery, stealing, and murder, and such ( to name a few) is free from the fear of sexually transmtted disease, broken families, or imprisonment for crimes committed.
The thing that belong to god, as the jewish covenant were meant to be a tutor to, are this; to recognize god has authority, and all he is asking of us is to love one another.

Answer 2

Wow, someone has been studying to show himself approved before God. First off, in malachi, He was actually talking to the priests who were keeping the people's tithes and offerings, and not offering them up before the Lord. They were keeping the good and giving all the bad stuff to God.
Jesus redeemed us from the curse and fulfilled the law and the prophets. He was the final tithe and offering.
Also on a more humorous note, Deut. 14 : 22-29 is about tithing and what to do if you can't get to God's House. Check it out. You convert all your tithes and offerings into money and spend it any way you want. Even on strong drink.
People will try to tell you that Hebrews is trying to say we should keep on tithing, but it is really saying it is already paid. We are supposed to be walking by faith and depending on God. However, as of yet, I have not seen one church depend on God alone. They all depend on man and his willingness to pay tithes and offerings and not depend on God.
I know that what I am saying is making some people offended but if that is the case they need to read Mk : 4 about being offended.
The day is coming and Now is that all men have to depend on God ( walk by faith ) or really be left behind. Selah!

Answer 3

Tithing was done before the Law was ever given. So in that sense it is outside the Law of Moses and becomes a spiritual principle instead of just a "law." There are many New Testament Scriptures concerning giving. But I guess what really did it for me was the thought that if the Law, which was the basic requirement, had tithing - how much more should I give above that minimum, since I live in the period of Grace not bound by the letter of the Law? I am a new creation in Christ and He lives in me, should I not "lay up my treasures in heaven" out of love and a desire to do all to please Him? Should I not declare with my giving His Worth? I have more of an "obligation" this side of Calvary then the Old Testament saints did before Calvary. From a very practical point - tithing is the economy of God to help pay the bills of His Church (not just line the Pastor's pocket) - it is used for salaries, budget issues, pay utilities, insurance etc. The cost of running a Church is not cheap. Ink alone, for printing bulletins, literature etc, can be "astronomical." I believe tithes and offerings is for us today and I personally do both. Don't begrudge your 10% to God and the offerings above that amount. Where your treasure is - there will be your heart. Also if you are stingy in your giving - you will block the flow of blessing in your life.

Answer 4

There are no references to Christians tithing in the New Testament and in the Old Testament the tithes don't resemble what Christians practice today.

There were 2 one time acts of tithing before the law of Moses. They were not ongoing like what's practiced today.

In the Law there were several tithes actually, all food. It totaled something like 23%. It could have been converted to money but God penalized it by 20% if memory serves. Hmm Malachi you mentioned... Let me look it up...

Hmm... yeah talking about food...

Malachi 3:10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.

Here's what Jesus said about the law's taxes...

Matthew 17:24After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, "Doesn't your teacher pay the temple tax[b]?"
25"Yes, he does," he replied.
When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. "What do you think, Simon?" he asked. "From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?"

26"From others," Peter answered.

"Then the sons are exempt," Jesus said to him. 27"But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."

Generousity is a good thing though... There just isn't any obligation...

Answer 5

we are still under the old testament. who said where not anymore?

matthew 5 17-18

The Fulfillment of the Law

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished

God made a promise that if i give my TITHE

malachi 3:10

Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY!

Answer 6

Yes, it means they were cursed for not paying their tithes.
As to whether tithing is taught in the New Testament, I think the only passage that would substantiate it is in Hebrews 7:2, where we are told Abraham paid a tithe to Melchizedek. As I understand this, Abraham typifies the believer, being the father of the faithful; and Melchizedek typifies Christ. Therefore we see it as a pattern that believers are to give a tenth of their income to the Lord. I don't think that necessarily means to a local church, but to the Lord. Let your giving be done prayerfully in obedience to what you feel God is showing you. I think a tithe is a minimum, kind of like the minimum daily requirement of your vitamins. Actually if we want to be disciples, Jesus said we didn't have a right to anything we own - it all belongs to Him, and we are His stewards (see Luke 14:25-33). However God doesn't expect us to reach maturity in a day. These are the things we are to aspire to. After being in the Lord over 30 years, I find my delight in increasing the percentage of what I give each year, as the Lord causes me to prosper.
Peace to you.

Answer 7

Do you remember the story Jesus told about the poor lady who gave 2 coins? He stated that she gave more than the rich men. The meaning of this is that we are judged not by how much we do give, but really on how much we keep.

God wants us to devote our lives to him 100%, this does not mean becoming a priest, but it does mean trusting and praying. If God asks you to do something, and you do it, I'd say that counts towards the tithe.

Paul goes on to say that we should give whatever we feel in our hearts is right. Maybe close your eyes and let God guide you as you write your check, whatever works I guess.

Lastly, God says that in regards to tithing, you can put him to the test (also in Malachi I think)! So if you are considering it a test of faith, I suggest you try it, and see how God blesses you for it!

So were the anciant followers cursed for not tithing? Maybe; because of the economy of the time, tithing would have a huge impact on the social system, sort of like our taxes and welfair do today. If people didn't tithe, society would not funtion as smoothly and I don't think that would have been God's will.

God speed my brother! (or sister) in Christ

Answer 8

Tithing In the New Testament:

1. Christ taught it (Matt 23:23; Luke 11:42; cp. Matt 5:20 with Luke 18:11-12; see Matt 10:10; Luke 10:7-8). This was teaching for the kingdom of heaven (Matt 11:11-14; Luke 16:16)

2. Paul Taught It:

(1) Condemned sacrilege (Rom 2:22), or robbing temples (Mal 3:8-10) and using holy things (Lev 27)

(2) Teachers to be paid (Gal 6:6)

(3) God ordained support of ministers (1 Cor 9:7-14; 1 Tim 6:17-18)

(4) Christians to give as God prospers them (1 Cor 16:2)

(5) Melchisedec priesthood is eternal and must be supported by children of Abraham (Heb 6:20; 7:1-11,17,21)

(6) Children of Abraham in faith must walk in his steps (Rom 4:12; Heb 7:1)

(7) Tithing is proof of obedience and appreciation of God's blessings (Rom 4:12; Heb 7:6-10; 1 Cor 9:7-14; 1 Tim 6:17-18; cp. Mal 3:8-10; Prov 3:9-10; Gen 14:20; Deut 8:10-20)

Tithing Before the Law of Moses:

Examples of Paying Tithes:

1. Abraham (Gen 14:20; Heb 7:1-11)

2. Jacob (Gen 28:22)

3. Levi in Abraham (Heb 7:9)

4. Hezekiah and Israel (2 Chron 31)

5. Nehemiah and Israel (Neh 13)

6. Hypocrites (Matt 23:23; Luke 11:42; 18:12)

7. Christians (1 Cor 9:7-14; 16:2; 2 Cor 7:11; 8:1-15; Gal 6:6; 1 Tim 5:17-18; Heb 7:1)

Answer 9

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Answer 10

There were twelve tribes who were given land (two were sons of Joseph) and the tribe of Levi (Levites), who were the priests. The Levites having no land of their own, relied upon the tithes to live and perform their priestly duties.

The New Testament states plainly that those who choose to preach are to make their living from preaching. Jesus tithed and paid the temple tax as required. Under the New Testament, Christians are not exempt from the law or above the law, they are held to a higher standard, or the spirit of the law.

Giving should be done without a feeling of obligation, but of joy. It should be based upon what you can afford to give.

The widow who gave the two mites in the temple was probably not giving one tenth, but she gave all she had after spending what she needed for her subsistence. That is why Jesus said that she had given more than anyone else that day. She gave out of her poverty.

The Christian standard relies upon love. Everything we do should be based upon love. First, love for God; then love for our neighbors; and finally, love for our fellow Christians. The only new commandment is the latter.

Love for God and love for our neighbors comes straight out of the books of law in the Old Testament. When your motives are appropriate, the law is not a concern, since, the laws are all based upon love. In fact, the 10 commandments are all about showing love for God and love for our fellow human beings.

Want to know what Christian love is? Read 1 Corinthians, chapter 13. It's pretty concise, although there are many more passages that elaborate on love.

Answer 11

These things are spiritually discerned. mate, you can not understand these things because your spirit is lock into, connected to this earthly plain. Jesus authorised the disciples to pay what belongs to Cesare (government), and what belongs to God (tithe).
God does not require all your money, just the portion you can spare, some can afford 10% some i have heard of pay 90%.
There is no law that says you have to pay, but you support what you believe in. Some are members of a football club, or union, or some other club.
it is all relative.

peace