Is pro life mass murder?

Question

Details: Lets say the pro life movement is able to "save"
100,000 fetuses per year that are the result of a mother being raped, lied to, abused, or even the mother being part of incest in a family. The yearly cost to raise these children is about 437 million dollars. If the same amount of money is used to "save" starving children, the number of children saved would be about 1.2 million. So if you spend your time "saving" lives the pro life way you will be responsible for the death of the 1.1 million that will starve. And the bad part is that the fetuses that are "saved" are not loved and living children. Most of the fetuses feel no pain, are not "human life"
and are sometimes deformed and will live lives of pain. Some will be miscarried even after being "saved". So you are trading living breathing humans for clumps of cells. If that is smart to you, then you belong in the pro life movement. I believe in choice rather than supporting the pro live movement that leads to mass murder.

Sources:
My life, it cost me 4700 dollars per year to raise my children.
Ads on TV frequently advertise I can save the life of a starving child in a third world country for 1 dollar per day.
4700 dollars times 100000 people is 470 million dollars.
470 million dollars divided by 360 dollars per child per year is 1.3 million children +/-
Rounding down gives the values in the question.

So what you are saying is that the pro life movement doesn't care if it actually saves anyone? Because if they are interested in saving children, they would save the 1.5 million babies.
Every time you spend money on pro life you are condemming over a milliion children to death.

A fetus is no more a human that a sperm, egg or my fingernail. Cloaning has proven that a human being can be made from most any part of a human being. What makes it human is not the fact that it is a fetus, but the fact that it has fully developed. Should I not be able to clip my nails because some nut says that it is human life? Simply because someone like you is unable to distinguish between something that lives outside the body and something that lives inside the body, I should not have to suffer.

Of course you do not have to stop your effort to end abortion. It is just if you do not stop, you will be responsible for the death of 1.2 million children for evey 100k fetuses you "save". You will simply appear as a nutcake if you continue.
As for me, I do not abort and I do not stop other people from aborting. It is a woman's right in consultation with her God or conscience. It is none of your business. But starving babies is your business. So annie up or be guilty.

I'm sorry bubba, but you can't excuse your way out of this one. If you continue your pro life ways, you are a mass murder. Go to google and search under dead children starving. You will see pictures of dead babies and kids that were alive except for your actions. And the kids you see were loved and wanted. You and the other pro life nuts will burn in hell for what you are doing.

You have written a lot and said nothing. Not one word you have said makes an argument why "you" should not save the lives of innocent starving children. I know others could and do save them. I know that I can and do save them. It is you and the pro life movement that kills these starving kids. If you think you have an argument, please state it clearly. Saying someone will or will not feed the starving children is conjecture. What you are trying to do is change the subject, lie you way out, avoid the obvious, and continue to kill. I am sorry, you are nothing but a murderer.

Cheryl---
I raised 4 kids at 4700 each. And I did not include everything in the estimate because each time I add a dollar, it makes your death toll higher. If you wish I can recalculate where it makes you look worse. As the cost to raise kids rises in the US, the number that must be saved increases. I can tell you can't do simple math, so just relax. You will need all your energy to kill more starving kids. And that is what this is about, you murdering kids.
None of what you wrote makes any sense at all. I don't care if your kid kicked a hole in your belly, you weren't going to abort. I hope no person uses my numbers to justify ending a fetuses life by abortion.
For each 100k fetuses you save you kill 1.3 million living children.. And that is just a fact. Justify in your mind all you wish your actions, but don't attempt to push off on me the consequences of your actions. I am not forcing unwanted fetuses to be born, you are. And each time you do it you murder 13 children.

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Way to go--- great answer

Answer 1

Abortion is not murder. Why a woman decides to terminate her pregnancy is a personal decision that only she can make. Pro choice is not pro abortion. Being pro choice means that a woman has the right to choose if she wants to carry and deliver a baby. It is not my business, nor anyone else, to decide what a woman can do with her body.

There is plenty of "evidence" in the bible that God approves of abortion. The Bible shows that God does NOT consider human life to be precious. He kills OVER 2 million people, including babies, and that isn't counting fetuses or the number of men, women, children, and fetuses killed during the Flood or the Slaughter of the Firstborns, when we are not told how many people he killed.

The Bible clearly shows that God approves of abortion, and in many cases commands it:

The Bible approves of killing pregnant women: Genesis 38:24, Numbers 31:17

The Bible approves of abortion: 2 Kings 15:16

God approves of abortion: Hosea 13:15-16

People are not counted as persons until they are a month old: Numbers 3:15

The Bible contains directions on how to abort any pregnancy caused by adultery: Numbers 5:12-31

The Bible says that being aborted is better than living a bad life: Ecclesiastes 6:3-5, Matthew 26:24

The Bible says that a person becomes a living soul when he BREATHES the BREATH of life into his nostril (fetuses don't breathe): Genesis 2:7

The bottom line is the US Supreme Court ruled that abortion is NOT murder. It is a legal procedure.

Does anyone really believe that an abortion would prevent the birth of a soul that God wants to be born? NO, of course it does not.

Answer 2

That money is not going to be used to save starving children with or without the abortion.
Your also acting like the majority of abortions are due to deformations.

First off incest doesn't normally cause deformations till it's been practiced for more then just one generation. You don't have to believe me just look it up for yourself.
We should probably start aborting all children and fool ourselves into believing that were going to use the saved money to support the children of parents who can't control themselves.
A lot of abortions are caused by people trying to avoid the consequences of there actions. Unfortunately for them having an abortion means that if they decide to have kids in the future the possibility of there body having an involuntary abortion increase. It gets worse with every following abortion.


EDIT:
I'm saying people don't set aside money for a child unless they have to. That includes everyone b/c we all have things we can do without like for example the internet.
Couldn't the money your paying for this service be used to help those kids instead of allowing abortions?

Edit2:

Do you not realize that your reasoning is completely whacked?
How are you going to compare aborting a fetus with clipping a fingernail?
Is abortion really that trivial a matter to you?
Studies have proving that a life growing with in a women is actually affected by outside sounds early on and react to certain actions on the mothers part.

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/fetusdevelopment.html

" "Probably nothing has been as damaging to our cause as the advances in technology which have allowed pictures of the developing fetus, because people now talk about the fetus in much different terms than they did 15 years ago. They talk about it as a human being, which is not something that I have an easy answer on how to cure.”

-- Harrison Hickman, pollster for the National Abortion and Reproductive
Rights Action League"


Give me liberty's last comment:
"It is a woman's right in consultation with her God or conscience. It is none of your business. But starving babies is your business. So annie up or be guilty."

Like I have said several times over you can get the money for those children without having to sacrifice the lives of others.
I'm sure you would agree that it's our business when a parent hearts the child which is under there care. Well a mother is responsible for her unborn child and just b/c it's under her care it doesn't mean she should be able to do what ever she wants with it. In just the same way parents are required to provide for there children from there own pocket and just b/c the child lives off of them, in the same way a fetus lives off it's mom, it doesn't mean they can kill it.

EDIT3:
"You and the other pro life nuts will burn in hell for what you are doing."

Why should I google that?
Nobody is arguing that there aren't kids starving. Your just ignorant and ignored everything I just said.Obviously you only want people to agree with you even do I just proved you WRONG!
I provided a source for my information, but what have you provided? NOTHING!

Answer 3

Have you ever had a child????
They feel no pain??? My son Hiccuped, Kicked me, and did flips in my stomach. I felt him. when I was pregnant and I was in a weird position, My son KICKED MY stomach, do you know why? Because he was uncomfortable in my stomach, which means he FEELS, which also means he has brain activity (which is recorded in the FIRST TRIMESTER of a pregnancy.

Since your soooo quick to kill a unborn child, How much money do YOU donate to these starving children?

By the way, Half these aborted babies are aborted by mothers WHO WANTED THEM, They just THOUGHT becaue Planned Parenthood evaluates their money situation and TELLS them they are not ready and if the child is UNPLANNED that it means they are UNWANTED.
They brain-wash these woman and take their children from them. for, once again, Money.

If planned parenthood would give them correct information, then miscarriages would stop, because these woman would get great prenatal care, if they only truly knew where to go.

You just think it's ok to kill a child, and then let the mother live with guilt and commit suicide, because you feel bad for poor children,
I am guessing that you DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help these children, but rant about it.

Oh and dont believe EVERYTHING you read in your local newspaper.
You do not know what your talking about.

my son's heartbeat started 21 days after I concieved him, I didn't find out until I was around 42 days. I didn't even start to get sick until then.

You dont know anything about being with child, because you have never been with a child.

You know what you can do.

cut off your internet and send the money to some starving kid.

so then maybe a starving kid might eat and a baby might be saved.

Your rants might be responisble for starving chidren's deaths, innocent babies, and their guilt-stricken mothers.

Good Job SATAN!

and as well your acting as though when a mother aborts a child, the doctors donate that money to a starving child in africa. Are you serious? That money goes to a doctor's BMW payment? So how the hell is stopping abortion making children starve?

and your saying that you raise your 4 CHILDREN on 4700 a year???
My son's formula and diapers alone cost 50 dollars a week, Not to mention clothing, rent (yes giving a child a place to live is raising them) electricity, water, hygene products, food, etc...
So your lieing through your teeth on that one.

So the only thing that starves those children are circumstances.

Most of the girls getting abortions are those who are underage age and afraid.
less then 1% of abortions are rapes.
There is a place in every city in this country for abused woman to go too...I know, I once again...volunteered there 3 years ago.

In addition, Why would you deny a birth Mother the chance to experience the most wonderful thing, that is child birth. Its the most amazing thing and every woman who gets the chance should do it.
Also, why would you deny a couple the chance to have a baby they adopted, so that they maybe feed and teach this baby...which once again if you've ever really done it you would know how truly amazing it is, to be up in the middle of the night, feeding this helpless baby while he/she looks up at you.
Or the chance to see a baby coo, sit up, crawl, walk, for the first time?
Why would you be so evil to allow that too happen?

and if you do spend 4700 dollars a year to raise your children, that means your STARVING THEM??

because lets see here rent (lets go CHEAP) 500 dollars times 12 months is (GASP) 6000 dollars (and no one spends that cheap on housing these days)
then food..lets say you starve your children and only spend 50 dollars a week..that is (GASP) 2600 a year!
Lets do some electricity...lets go cheap again and say you spend 100 a month..that is (GASP) 1200 DOLLARS!
Looks like you may have gone a little over budget..Liar.

So I am guessing, your children and you live in a shack with no food and light candles all night, let me guess...so YOU can use the electricity for the internet late at night?

keep the questions coming...I'll be here to dispute them, but I warn you, I am a person who catches lies right away, has worked with woman in situations such as pregnancy and abuse my whole teenage and adult life..Not to mention the experiences of own life...so please know what your talking about before you ask





I recalculated 4700 times 4 is 18,800 a year you spend raising 4 kids...

Now since I gave you the benefit of the doubt last time...Lets do some REAL numbers

Rent (mortgage..whatever) medium estimate, for 4 children homes...so lets say the share bedrooms,, plus yours is a 3 bedroom home...Thats estimated at about 800 dollars a month (I am still going cheap) 800 times 12 months is 9600
Plus The electricity for this home, real medium cost for a 3 bedroom home...200 dollars times 12 is 2400
Plus The food for feeding 4 children is 200 dollars a week...times 52 weeks is..10,400

So JUST FOR rent, electricity and food alone...cost you 22,400..Do the Math..YOU DEPRIVE YOUR CHILDREN

How in the world do you cloth them? Entertain them? when you already spent your budget?
Your still a liar

Plus next time answer me this ONE QUESTION

HOW IS IT RELATED TO STARVING CHILDREN???

IF THESE DOCTORS DON'T DONATE ALL THEIR MONEY TO STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, NOW DOES IT?

SINCE THESE DOCTORS DON'T DONATE THE MONEY, YOU COULD SAY THAT ABORTION DOCTORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE STARVING CHILDREN...SINCE THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DONATE IN THE FIRST PLACE...

SO BY GIVING THESE DOCTORS TO KILL REAL LIFE BABIES, YOUR KILLING STARVING CHILDREN AS WELL...

THE HEART BEATS AT 21 DAYS AFTER CONCEPTION, BRAIN ACTIVITY IS RECORED 4 WEEKS AFTER CONCEPTION, YOUR BABY MOVES AT ONLY 5 WEEKS

YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO KNOW THAT IF IT HAS A HEART BEAT AND MOVES....IT ALIVE

YOUR SATAN..IN THE FLESH



AND IF WE ALL DONATE A DOLLAR, WON'T IT HELP THESE CHILDREN??
SO WHY WOULD WE ABORT ANY CHILDREN??

AND IF START ABORTING ALL OF OUR CHILDREN, AND ADOPT CHILDREN FROM SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THEN WOULDN'T THAT STOP PRODUCTION OF CHILDREN AS IT IS

ONCE AGAIN, PLANNED PARENTHOOD MISLEAD THESE WOMAN INTO THINKING THAT THEY ARE UNWANTED, YOU HAVE NO CLUE BECAUSE YOUR NOT A WOMAN. SO HOW DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?

MY CHILD WAS ALIVE INSIDE OF ME, YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW, BECAUSE HE WAS IN ME..YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE YOUR NOT A WOMAN..

each time you get on the internet, you deprive starving children 39.95 dollars in food.
So your just as responisble as those crazy pro-lifer's..huh?

Thats 479.40 a year that should have went to a starving
child.
when you turn on your televsion...thats what? 30 dollars a month...thats 360 dollars a year you could have sent to a starving child.
but since you like to entertain yourself...you'd rather watch a child die? huh?
With Cable and Internet you waste 839 dollars a year! that could feed alot of kids...

How do you know if an aborted child is unwanted? Do you know how many people call our hotlines, looking for another way?
My son didn't kick a hole in my belly. Your a moran

Do you know that woman can get great prenatal care, formula, food, a place to live and a job all by going to an anti-abortion place. Look under "abortion alternatives" in your local yellow book.
Do you know any woman who are proud of their abortion? Do you know who they are? Every single woman I know who had an abortion regrets it. Every Single One of them, and then ones that don't, you should probably take a look at their lifestyles.

The people who are responsible for starving children are not pro-lifers
You know who it is:

Its all of us, with our fancy internet, cars, clothing, hygene products, Entertainment, Greedy Politicans, Rich Companies, People who own houses that wrap around the block.

If we could get all those people to donate money to starving children, as well as woman who so desperatly want their children, then all together we could save EVERY child, alive, unborn, fetus, living...every single one.
The Mass Murder is ALL OF US....YOU INCLUDED