Stop trying to take the words under God out of pledge, because it will never happen
2007-03-08 07:42:51 · 40 answers · asked by Chase 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Fortunately I don't have this problem as I am not American
2007-03-08 07:52:11 · answer #1 · answered by rosbif 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
1) We obviously aren't one nation under God when there are American atheists.
2) Under God was added to the pledge. The original pledge (sans under God) was written by a religious person. One would think that it would have been added then if it had been appropriate.
3) Why can't religious people accept that it is a good idea to separate religion from the state?
4) Isn't the pledge worshiping an idol (the flag)? It seems like a major contradiction to be for religious people.
2007-03-08 07:50:08 · answer #2 · answered by Your Best Fiend 6 · 8⤊ 0⤋
You forgot to mention which nation. Fortunately, that in itself is a dead giveaway that you're American.
Because 1) it's not a fact (read the USA Constitution) and 2) our disbelief in God is *exactly* the same as your disbelief in Quetzalcoatl. Can you accept the fact that we are a one nation under Quetzalcoatl? Didn't think so. Try to understand that atheists feel exactly the same way about your god as you do about Quetzalcoatl.
I have a question for you: What do propose we do with America's 30 million atheists and agnostics? I certainly don't think that you would agree to the "solutions" used by Christians in the Middle Ages. So should we herd them into re-education camps? Follow Bush the Elder's suggestion and revoke their citizenship?
Or maybe we should just stop making presumptions one way or another about the standard issue American belief. How would you feel if atheists had proposed that we change the wording to "one nation without God"? If you have a problem with mere neutrality in the pledge, then why do you think that we non-believers shouldn't have a problem with non-neutrality?
(Hmmm, let's see... Yep, Idaho. American. So predictable.)
2007-03-08 09:08:34 · answer #3 · answered by RickySTT, EAC 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The word god has only been on our money and our pledge for only about 50 years and it was only put there due to a catholic lobbyist group with plenty of money...
This country was never intended to be "one nation under god". The founding fathers were actually deists and openly critical of christianity. If they were to see what the country has become they would be absolutely horrified and re-write the constitution to specifically prohibit religion from money and our pledge.
We were "one nation indivisible" since the beginning, the "under god" was only added in the uncertain times following WWII as the religious right movement began. It needs to be removed.
2007-03-08 07:54:51 · answer #4 · answered by Mike K 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Look at the results:
1) Leave the words in there and schools stop having kids recite the pledge of allegiance at all for fear of "offending" someone with the word "god".
2) Take the words out and schools continue to teach kids to show respect to the flag and to the country. Meanwhile, religion continues to be taught in churches just as it always has.
Which is better?
2007-03-08 07:52:02 · answer #5 · answered by Open Heart Searchery 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Well given I don't believe the words of your bible are true, then I assume I can also state that the phrase in the pledge is not true as well. Just because you say it, it doen't make it so.
What is sad, is that, as an atheist, I can guarantee I have done more to protect your personal freedom and security in this country than you have. All so you can come in here and post meaningless comments trying to insult and inflame people.
Moving on...
2007-03-08 07:49:26 · answer #6 · answered by ? 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
How were we before the scare tactics of the 50's?
Knowledge is power.
I worry about people who need the word God in the pledge or on money. It doesn't make you a better person, and it doesn't get us as a country into Gods good graces.
2007-03-08 07:48:47 · answer #7 · answered by Miss. Bliss 5 · 6⤊ 0⤋
I think it not only possible that the pledge will be restored to its pre-1954 wording, but likely.
"One nation under God" isn't a fact, it's a religious belief. The pledge should be an expression of one's patriotic feelings for one's country, not a statement of one's belief in monotheism.
2007-03-08 07:48:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
I believe in God, but their all right, a man put those words in our pledge. We don't have to have it in our pledge to believe in him. We don't have to worry about taking our faith, we believe in God, and that he created everything, not just our nation.
He knows the stupidity of them taking him out..let god deal with them. We will see them again.
2007-03-08 08:18:39 · answer #9 · answered by chersa 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We don't care if YOU want to say "Under God" during the pledge. We DO care that you try to demand that EVERYONE say it, regardless of their beliefs. We will succeed in having a law made that no one can be forced to say "Under God." Don't try to tell me that you honestly CARE whether or not "Under God" is in the pledge, or "In God We Trust" is on coins. It's not like your faith will change if it's taken off. It won't affect you. You're only trying to demand that it stay there for ONE reason, and that's to force your religious beliefs on to everyone else. THAT'S why we're going to succeed in having it removed. We're fighting for our constitutional rights to not have others religious beliefs forced on us. You're simply fighting to FORCE your religious beliefs on someone else, and that's why you'll eventually fail.
2007-03-08 08:23:03 · answer #10 · answered by Jess H 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Those words were not in the Pledge as originally written. A purist would support removing them and restoring the original text.
It should also say "I pledge allegiance the flag AND the United States...."
Not" OF the United States.."
2007-03-08 07:52:52 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋