If everything just happened ( meaning no creator, all life arose from time+chance+circumstance ) Then how can anything that happens here be wrong? If it happens here, then it is natural.
If you disagree, then what qualifies you to judge what happens here?
2007-03-08 06:52:25 · 48 answers · asked by The Angry Stick Man 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I Agree. Without God there is no wrong or right.
God created everything.
Without God there would be nothing:
+ No universe
+ No Earth
+ No humans
+ No right and no wrong
Propositions like "If this alternate reality happened then what ..." are of no real value to people seeking God and spirituality.
With love in Christ.
2007-03-08 07:16:31 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
That is actually a much more complicated question to answer than I suspect you realize. Are you talking about wrong, as in natural disasters/ catastropheis, or are you meaning laws and statutes wrong?
This question can exist on many levels. And, you have to get into the whole realm of a group of people gathering, creating a society, setting up customs, laws, etc. It isn't a quick answer.
But, making rules and laws is a perfectly natural thing. In the animal world, they follow "customs". Animals have a hierarchy, and those at the top are in control. What isn't realized is that, say the pride of lioness' could very easily outnumber the male, kill him, and take over. But, they do not.
Do you think we as humans do not do this? There are 438 members of the House, and 100 Senators. So, basically, 538 people are making the rules, and are in charge of 300million. For the most part, we let them get a away with a great deal. We really don't challenge their power, and the hierarchy that is in place. Even though we outnumber them by a great deal.
2007-03-08 07:01:06 · answer #2 · answered by ? 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's not natural to maliciously kill little kids for fun. You think that just naturally happens? And you think that bad things happen "because" there is a God? As in, if not for the existence of God, we wouldn't have good and bad? I would think that if such a loving God did exist, then we wouldn't have good and bad, right and wrong. Perhaps the human psyche, chemicals in the brain, birth defects, and such are the cause of right and wrong. For example, the killers that have mental disorders.
We are qualified to judge because as a society we come together to recognize what is wrong and what is right. I, personally, can't decide what these things are, although I might wish to. And you ask what qualifies us to judge, but we do don't we. I mean, we have laws. We put to death convicted killers. Is that not the ultimate judgment? Why are we qualified to do that? Well, precisely for the same reason I mentioned above.
2007-03-08 07:00:10 · answer #3 · answered by eastchic2001 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Disagree.
It's possible to have morals without a God. Surely people will figure out that actions like killing, stealing, rape, and more will have a very harmful effect on culture with or without God. It's not like we're blind without a God. Due to human (and possibly animal) nature, there will always be someone higher in power that decides what is right and wrong, God or Godless. Are you suggesting that Atheists have no morals?
As for judging, people judge regardless if there is a God or not.
2007-03-08 07:02:59 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Disagree: Morality is not the exclusive right of the religious.
A large fraction of the world believes in God, yet they do not agree on what is right or wrong.
Not all Christians agree on what is right or wrong, not all Jews agree with their fellow Jews, and not all Muslims agree with other Muslims. If God tells us what is right or wrong, then why all the disagreement, even within the various religions?
And even if God did create everything, then by your logic, everything that happens is God's will and also cannot be wrong.
2007-03-08 07:04:38 · answer #5 · answered by William 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
What do you mean by wrong or right? If you say 2+2 = 7, that is wrong. If you mean a tsunami happens, that isnt wrong, its just natural, and cant be classified as wrong or right. If you mean a murder, then again, that is wrong. It has nothing to do with God. We are able to make moral judgements without believing in God. Part of morality is what is best for the common good.
2007-03-08 06:58:55 · answer #6 · answered by sngcanary 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I disagree, but I'm not qualified to judge. Whether or not God exists or not, certainly doesn't mean we can just do what we want with no consequence. Everybody deserves a peaceful and happy quality of life...that's what we're all shooting for anyway....I'd have to say I'm a spiritual agnostic, but still live life for the better good of humanity.
2007-03-08 06:58:17 · answer #7 · answered by Virgo 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The answer to this is your worst nightmare. Morality is an evolved trait allowing individuals to prosper and reproduce in social groupings. So, for instance, Buddhists, who by and large crack up at the mention of your god, do NOT go around raping or killing each other, or knocking-off incense stores willy-nilly.
What qualifies me? A healthy dose of science, philosophy and observation. Of course having a wife who's an anthropologist does help in understanding that one's "beliefs" are not the laws of the universe.
2007-03-08 07:05:52 · answer #8 · answered by JAT 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Lord teach them but don't ask them to think!!!
The concept of right and wrong, laws etc. pre-date the Hebrew concept of God, therefore, God cannot be seen as the sole reason for the ideals of right and wrong.
This is historical fact not hysterical religious conjecture so obviously my answer is disagree.
BTW, you're being just a tad arrogant in you presumption that if someone disagrees that need to justify themselves. A little less pride and a little more humility might be in order.
2007-03-08 07:05:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Wrong. Morality existed far long before religion has.
Also consider that atheists and secular nations have by far the lowest rates of crime, violence, murder, rape, intolerance, abortion, teen pregnancy, stds, divorce and so on. Since non-believers are statistically the most moral by wide margins, any connection between morality and god would be minimal and trivially weak at best.
There are very notable evolutionary reasons for morality to have been developed. Many other animals exhibit similar morals and behaviors to our own. Wolves look after their elders, most creatures don't kill each other, many animals will die to defend loves ones and friends, a large portion have one mate for life, and so on.
Check out a book on evolutionary psychology to see how morals came about. "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins isn't bad either.
2007-03-08 06:59:43 · answer #10 · answered by Mike K 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
If we were living in a completely anarchistic society then to the barbarian there would be no wrong and no right. However, to the victims of the barbarian there would be wrong and there would be right. These victims are how society determines right and wrong.
We have formed a society. To do so, we have given up certain freedoms, such as bashing in someone's head to gain the stuff they own. Society comes up with rules and laws about what is right and wrong. This is done to preserve the rights of everyone else. You can trace these rules to victims who were fed up with being victims.
Look at it the way I do. I do not want to be robbed or killed or whatever. I want these to be rules in my society. That will protect me. In return, I will not rob or kill or whatever.
2007-03-08 07:01:53 · answer #11 · answered by A.Mercer 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋