For you hardcore supporters?

Question

What do you think of this latest report? I know a lot of you said because of the 2 kidnapped israelis, hell broke lose...but did u know it was in the making and why not target hezbo rather than a whole country, and do u think the hate is even more towards the israeli state now?? i'm curious >>
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has testified he launched last year's war against Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon in line with a contingency plan he approved four months before, the Haaretz daily said on Thursday. He told a judicial inquiry last month that Hezbollah's capture of two Israeli soldiers on July 12 triggered the plans for a large-scale attack in Lebanon, the Israeli newspaper said. Israel failed to achieve its declared goals of retrieving the two soldiers taken in a cross-border raid, and destroying the Iranian- and Syrian-backed group's rocket arsenal and military capacity.

Answer 1

You mention 2 kidnapped 2 SOLDIERS!

What about all the Palesitanis CIVILIANS kept in Israelis prisons, including CHILDRENEN as young as 11 and 13 years old?

In the ME there newer will be peace as long as the state of Israel acts like it does.

I know all about this confict. But so far nobody could provide me with EVIDENCE that this land was giving to "choosing people". There is no proof of it.

I do know that this conflict is not about Israelis and others. It's all about politics and not individuals.

Give me thumbs down as many as you want to, but that's my personal opnion.

@moneymaker: I am always straight and I always say what I think. I am just asking for EVIDENCE!

Answer 2

After Israel gave back land to the Palestinians, they started bombing Israel; the Hamas from Gaza and the Hezballah from Lebanon. That is why an offensive attack was planned before the kidnapping of the soldiers. (why is it called "kidnapping" instead of "capture? because they were on Israeli land, just doing border patrol, all three, not two, and militant Palestinians crossed the border and killed soldiers and took these young men as bargaining chips. no war, no cause, no justification.)
Actually, most of the Lebanese are against the Hezballah, but their government is too weak to get them out. Before Israel attacked, they dropped warnings to the Lebanese that will be an attack and they should leave. It was not a war against the Lebanese, but against the Hezballah.
In the beginning of the war, Israel was getting most of their targets and things were looking like it would work. It was an air strike, hitting the southern Lebanese infrastructure and known hideouts of Hezballah leaders. But then the international community stepped in and demanded that the airstrikes stop. So troops were sent in...to a place they were unfamiliar with, and not well enough prepared.
Also, a lot of the story that got in the media was corrupted, especially by Reuters--for example, the Qana massacre---that never happened. Pictures of "dead" bodies that were proven to be people posing. Stuff like that. You can find web sites that show the truth (I've given one in the sources).

In the end: everyone is pretty sure that the war will continue this summer.
Hezballah is demanding that Israel free 1000 male prisoners, known terrorists and murderers, as well as all females, also known bombers and murderers, in exchange for the two soldiers (or their bodies) they have; and Israel would have to make another, separate agreement with Egypt and Hamas for the third soldier. It's not going to happen, which is what Hezballah wants.

Answer 3

Israel did target Hezbollah. There is an interesting dynamic in the Middle East; Israel has a mandatory draft, and all (most) young people serve in the army, so is killing (or kidnapping) a soldier that much better than doing the same to a civilian? These young men didn't sign up voluntarily knowing the risks, they enlisted because their country needs them. At the same time, the intended targets ("Hezbo" as you so beautifully put it) launch a majority of their attacks from civilian areas. In case you did not know, fighting behind a wall of civilians is a violation of human rights and the laws of engagement, while killing civilians who are being used as human shields is not. In the conflict in Lebanon, that is exactly what happened. Hezbollah for example fired rockets from buildings; Israel therefore had to destroy those buildings and the rocket launchers they contained. As long as terrorist groups use human shields, there will be civilian casualties. Another interesting tidbit about the ME is what I call "Terrorist Branching". Somehow various groups have managed to sell the belief that the political branch of an organization is in no way connected to the military branch. Thus we can call Fatah "moderate" despite the existence of the "armed wing" of Fatah which is in fact a terrorist group. More importantly for this case, somehow the Hizbullah political group (a member of the government) is disconnected to the terrorist group. Now if a political party that is in the government attacks a foreign country, that's a declaration of war. Not quite sure how that's been overlooked. In the west this concept is hard to grasp, because political parties do not have "armed wing"s. In response to your last question, I think hate has grown in certain places, but I also feel that in most of those places, a different response wouldn't have changed anything

Answer 4

first off if a terrorist group (the Hezbollah) is also a political party in a country something is messed up. the Hezbollah integrated themselves with the civilians. they have purposely built their building near civilian neighborhods and stuff so that they can say Israel attacked the civilians.

lets just say that Mexico really hated the US and so did Canada, wouldnt the US have a plan for a war if it ever started? so it is not really that big of a deal that they had a plan, any country would.

Israel did what any country would if 2 of their soliders were captured

Answer 5

I don't know what to say.
Olmert is a moron, that is for sure.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't finish the war where he finished it. I wouldn't start it the way he started it.

But really, itay makes a great point, how would you attack "Hezbos only", when the entire southern Lebanon is an active Hezbo member? And part of the Beirut.

evidence-shmevidence. I gave you plenty of evidence, but you got hatred for us, just as they do.

Edit:
Well, thank you h, for finally showing your true face.

Answer 6

-milo, how do you target hezbollah without attacking lebanon? if you have the answers, i am sure israel's 5-star generals would be interested to hear from you

-the lebanese always hated israel, some things will never change; anyhow, what does it mean to me, an israeli, that they hate us more now? they've been allowing various terrorist groups to attack israel from within their borders for the last 30 years. they can hate us all they want, but they have no business attacking our territorital sovereignty and killing our civilians without provocation.

Answer 7

2% of the Israelis support the government.

Answer 8

right here
http://911scholars.org/