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It is undeniable that even the simplest form of life couldn't just exist fully formed out of nothing, out of nowhere, with no origin or history or reason for its existence of any kind. Something had to be responsible for it.

Even more so for a human being - It's surely no coincidence that the most complex object in the known universe, the human brain, is also the only thing we all recognise as being truly intelligent. It's inconceivable that a human being could just exist fully formed from nowhere, for no reason, with no origin of any kind.

Given all this, how can anyone believe that something infinitely more amazing than even a human being - an intelligent entity capable of designing and creating an entire universe - could just exist with no origin of any kind? Clearly, this defies reason. Anything complex, and especially anything intelligent, can only be the product of a natural process (e.g. evolution) or an antecedent intelligence. To deny this is simply nonsensical.

2007-03-08 05:06:09 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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TLG, you obviously do not understand this person's reasoning. He claims that if you believe that everything requires a creator, why do you claim your 'God' does not require any?

Instead one can simply assume the universe does not require any creator; neither does it require a first event (in time). If one assumes a deity existed before the universe, then there are two possible flows of events in its supernatural realm; (a) there was a first event; (b) there was no first event. Out of this one may as well assume that the universe either had a first event or never had any first. If one assumes that every event requires a previous one, then there is no beginning in time. These two arguments - (a) there is no need for a first event in the universe, (b) the universe does not require a creator - immediately destroy the first two famous argumnets of St. Thomas, one who claimed the universe requires a deity.

The universe does not require a creator in the sense if one assumes that matter, energy and force have always existed, but continue to transform itself.

2007-03-08 05:21:18 · answer #1 · answered by stevevil0 3 · 0 1

I think God (as a universal energy of intelligent design) indeed has come from something ... I also think that once humans are able to use a larger percent of our brains.....we will have more answers.

Einstein makes some really good points about energy, how about that? We forget sometimes the concepts that are easy to understand but hard to incorporate into everyday life. (I have faith that energy is a continuous flow - even after it leaves it's 'shell' (our bodies) and it will continue to travel into eternity (our soul is that energy) this is a scientific concept. God is a perfect mixture and we can't quite fathom the creator of the creator but who's to say there isn't one?

2007-03-08 05:19:25 · answer #2 · answered by Virgo 4 · 0 0

If god needed to be created then that creator needed a creator. it goes on and on.

2007-03-08 05:20:28 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It is a silly argument.
Life can't be spontaneously created.
But God can be spontaneously created?

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stevevil0, sorry silly, I do understand.
It's the same silly argument. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2007-03-08 05:12:36 · answer #4 · answered by TLG 3 · 0 2

Bingo! you answered your own question. Good job!

2007-03-08 05:11:36 · answer #5 · answered by ricks 5 · 0 0

ant's god is different from that of ours...I am not on speaking terms with our God caaz it is dull. Now I believe in ants' god...

2007-03-08 11:00:37 · answer #6 · answered by SEE YOU LATER 2 · 0 0

I FIND IT FUNNY YOU'RE A NATURIST, BUT DON'T PAY HOMAGE TO THE BEING THAT MADE IT.
IF GOD IS GOD, HE IS BEYOND US AND OUR VIEW OF REALITY. HE JUST ALWAYS WAS.

2007-03-08 05:11:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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