Have you heard about the Police punching that girl?

Question

I know it is wrong and no way should the police punch anyone they are arresting but has anyone asked the question

If she didn't vandalise that car would she have been punched in the first place!!

By the police punching her it has taken the spotlight off the fact that she is a no good vandal who has ruined someone else's property!!

Plus if she is epileptic what is she doing in a club anyway surely all the strobe lights would set of a fit!!!

I am sorry but I think it is so wrong that the highlight has been taken off the fact she is scum

Again I don't agree with what the police did but if she never vandalised the car she wouldn't have been punched!!

One of my friends is epileptic and cannot go to clubs

Plus this girl is blaming her having a fit and that is why she vandalised the car

Epileptic fits do not make you vandalise anything they fall to the ground and shake uncontrollably when I was in school with my friend I was trained by her doctor on how to recognise a fit and what to do with her while she is having a fit believe me having a fit would not make her vandalise a car

As I said I don't agree with the police punching her all I am saying is that if she didn't commit the crime in the first place they woouldn't have had to arrest her would they

If this is racial then I feel for her but sometimes people like this seem to use their race as an excuse from what I have read and seen the police used correct force to restrain her and now she is using her race to claim!!, It is wrong not only because the poor policeman might lose his job but when it comes to real race abuse those people might be seen as crying wolf!!

Look at the woman who tried to say Cheryl Tweedy racially attacked her and claimed for compensation!! now for a person that may be racially attacked like that they will be seen as a liar. It makes real abuse victims less likely to come forward!

Answer 1

I'm afraid that i agree with the cop in this case, the young woman did not have injuries to her head or face consistent with being struck 5 times by quite a large copper, its seems very fair to say that the blows were not as severe as was seen on cctv shown this morning.. The cynic in me says its a blatant prelude for a legal challenge for compensation from the police. It was not clear on the cctv if she was having a fit, however i would have to err on the side of the police as she had shown aggressive behaviour before the incident by trying to escape down the stairs in an attempt to elude arrest.

I Think that the cops bosses should be behind this cop,

Answer 2

1. The female in question had commited a criminal offence and was resisting arrest. Now, I know it's great to shout down the police when you 'think' they've done something wrong, but how about if your car had been damaged by a white male yob, and the police had to use force on him to arrest him as he was kicking off in a disorderly, violent, aggressive, drunken stupor? I guess there would be far less people moaning - well lets have a sense of equality shall we? It is one rule for everyone - the police will use force where necessary.

2. It is a perfectly legitimate form of defence to throw a clenched fist towards someone and this is taught to trainee officers. The police officer who did so is not attempting to hide the fact in any way whatsoever. He is perfectly within his rights to use this level of force if he thinks it necessary. I imagine that those of you who are not police officers would be able to control all the people officers have to deal with nowadays with a few stern words and no force whatsoever? Dream on.

3. CCTV is misleading. That said, the officer has stated that yes, he did hit her. The force have stated that they are happy with the actions he took. It's funny how she only decides that she can make a complaint out of this after her solicitor gets hold of the cctv - she doesn't even remember what happened, apparently.

4. I sometimes wonder why any person would want to join the police. If you're not moaning at police driving standards when using blue lights, you're moaning about the level of force. We can't win. I just wish people would sometimes consider how exactly they would like the service run, because clearly nothing done by the police is ever good enough. Perhaps if we refuse to ever enter into any situation where conflict might arise, we leave the drunks to roam the streets until they're sober and sensible, we deal with those with guns/knives only once they have decided to put the gun/knife down, we attend every job at 30mph in rush hour traffic, we don't act on any terrorism intelligence in case we get it wrong (depsite the fact that 99% of the time it's right - you hear about the 1% that's not).... I could go on as the moans from the public are endless. Trust me - for the scrutiny and criticism we get, most officers would feel a whole lot safer if the examples above were true. In your day job, what's the worse that can happen if you mess up? Think about it - officers find themselves risking their life, freedom etc. every time they act.

Show some support, wait to hear the proper facts and stop jumping on the media band wagon.

Answer 3

Well given the recent track record of the Judiciary the CHAV scum in question will be let off with a big apology and the IPCC will hang the Officer out to dry even though he was being assaulted by the biatch in question. Isn't it about time Magistrates, Judges and politicians were forced to join Officers on patrol for a few Friday and Saturday nights to see what kind of behaviour they have to deal with and put up with? Only until these people realise what life is like on the front line will we ever get sentences that truly reflect the gravity of the crime. Punishment should be cruel and it should be unusual so that Offenders learn the hard way not to repeat their crimes.

Answer 4

I personally haven't seen all the footage but from what I'm hearing, the officer punched the woman in her arm when trying to apply handcuffs.
Those of you in the know will recognise a distraction strike, those of you not in the know should find out what a distraction strike is before making negative comments.
I've used exactly the same technique myself and it worked, which is why I used it and why I'm trained to do so if necessary.
I think we should all know the full story before making too many comments.
It is however nice to see so many people supporting the Police as a result of this incident.
It makes a nice change!

To Ian S,
1. I'm a taxpayer too and I also pay my wages.
2. I'm not at work 24/7 so I do have time to use my computer occasionally!
3. I wonder how you would react if you were faced with a drunk unreasonable person and were in fear of your own safety?

Answer 5

If you watch the video closely you can see the police hitting her arm where she is grabbing onto him. It's a legitimate form of defence to make someone release and something we are taught to do all the time.
As for men being easier to control than women, women can be just as feisty and because there's a deep seated fear now of being accused of assault by losers like this woman, women are rarely manhandled anyway. From watching the video they were perfectly justified. She resisted arrest, and attempted to assault the officers. What should they do, let her?

Answer 6

She has done wrong by vandalising the car, but surely that does not justify being hit 5 times to subdue her.
There were 4 big blokes and one dog!!!!!
The fact that she was Epileptic does not mean she cannot go in to a club, depends on the type she as, if the lights would effect her.

Answer 7

This female committed a crime then resisted arrest she was hit in the shoulder not the head and if excessive force was used where are the injuries?.She was arrested unijured and what no one seems to consider the officers were also uninjured.Job well done lads.

Answer 8

I agree to a certain point. I think it was excessive, but the again, I'm not in the poistion of having to sort out these drunks. It used to be a crime to be drunk and disorderly - you were fined for it or put in the stocks. Maybe they should start taking it seriously again.

Answer 9

Having seen the footage, it appears that she was on the floor with one policeman holding her legs, another big copper standing watching and the one hitting her So unless she was that tough that they couldn't controll a drunk 20 year old then it was definitely OTT of him to hit her because vandalising a car is not exactly a major crime. I've seen Aggressive men be restrained with less aggressive techniques by the police and have you also heard that the IPC is looking into the racial aspect of it!

Answer 10

having epilepsy means there some abnormalities in her brain function causing the fits. Sometimes the abnormalities can be noticed in her behaviour even when she does not have the fits. On one hand this could be the justification for her action. this then means that such people may be immune in certain circumstances.
The action of the police could not be tolerated when they abuse the powers vested in them, a trained police officer should know how to handle violent people without causing bodily harm. However they have a duty to protect people and property from vandalism where the use of force should be the last resort.