Can you disprove the existence of God?

Question

If you can logically and seriously disprove the existence of God (in your mind of course) you get 10 points for best answer!

Keep in mind:

I DO believe in God
I AM a Christian

I just always find it interesting to see how others have logically proven the non-existence of God.

I realize that PROOF is impossible. I merely want your best argument against God. Thanks! Sorry for the lack of clarity.

Answer 1

Proof only exists in formal mathematics. I believe one can only take a set of competing claims, and then examine the evidence and assign probabilities for each claim.

Here are some claims, and my views of what the evidence tells us:

1) The universe was created by supernatural being: the evidence is pretty neutral for or against this claim. Such a being would seemingly be irreducibly complex, so would require yet another being to create it. This is an infinite recursion. I consider this logical argument to be good circumstantial evidence against the existing of a supernatural being.

2) The Hebrew Bible is literally true: a huge amount of evidence against this claim, and no objective evidence for it.

3) The Hebrew Bible is the mythology of the ancient Hebrews, much like the Greek pantheon mythology: quite a bit of evidence for this claim. The bible makes much more sense when viewed this way.

4) Jesus Christ was the real "son of god" and was resurrected after being crucified for our sins: No objective evidence for this.

5) Jesus Christ is a myth that grew out of previous messiah myths: some pretty good evidence for this claim.

6) There is a wide range of supernatural phenomena like gods, demons, ghosts, out of body experiences, etc.: No objective evidence. A lot of superstitious people who believe it and reinforce each other's beliefs, but no objective evidence. Note also that quite a few specific claims of supernatural/paranormal events have been debunked.

You probably get the idea where I am going with this. I think the odds of any kind of god are very low. The odds of the Christian god being real are infinitesimal.

Answer 2

If I told you that there we're thousands of incorporeal, invisible gremlins surrounding us every day, how would you go about disproving that? Obviously there aren't, I just made it up, but what would be your first step in disproving this claim?




Any ideas?




The answer is you can't. Not until *I*, who made up this claim, give you some sort of tool, or experiment to preform that can do it. I made it up, after all, I have complete control over it. Any experiment you preform that you claim disproves my gremlins, I can simply make up something new to refute it. It's the same with god. If you want me to disprove god, *you're* going to have to tell me how. Logically, please. None of that "existence is proof of god" crap.

Edit: Angeltress, you couldn't be more wrong. Forgetting the fact that the word "no" in that statement should immediately tell you that it's a negative statement, not a positive, let's pretend, for a moment, that no one had ever claimed that god exists. The world is without knowledge of any god. I come come along and claim "There is no god". The response I would get is "There's no what, now?". The statement "There is no god" makes no sense unless someone has already claimed that there is. I may as well be saying "There is no floogerboggum". I'm not the one making the claim, you are, and I'm refuting it.

Answer 3

By stating that you're a Christian and using 10 imaginary points as a carrot, it's pretty obvious that you just want us to give you an answer you will like. With all due respect, I will give you answers you will not like, but will hopefully find interesting nonetheless.

1) I haven't been able to rule him out yet.
Of course, I haven't been able to rule out a whole bunch of other things..

2) Does it matter? If it does, we're in a whole lot of trouble.
God either exists or doesn't. My belief one way or the other doesn't change the answer.

3) Which one?
Probably, my idea of who God is is very different from your idea of who God is, even if we read from the same book. I don't think anyone has a problem with God. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I think that most people have a problem with anyone with the presumption that they know God better than others. Why can't we all just come clean and say that everyone is completely lost? I bet the odds are that none of us is even close.

Answer 4

You cannot disprove god(s) either through logic or evidence. The rules are set up by believers in such a way that this feat is technically impossible. However one can make good arguments against the existence of god(s), especially specific gods like Yaweh, or Allah. This would reqire in advance a clear and complete definition of the god in question. For this reason and the fact that it would take way too long to post here i shall not even attempt it right now... but if you want to know, just ask.

Answer 5

No serious nonbeliever can disprove the existence of what you call "God." It is simply impossible to prove a negative claim. Anyone who claims they 100% know God doesn't exist is putting so much belief as to be compared to Christian fundamentalists. Luckily, these fundamental atheists are very rare.

With today's science and history, we can find no phenomenon that cannot be logically explained in the absence of a God, which makes the chances of his existence very very low. Therefore, it is not necessary to regard the small percentage that he exists as proof he DOES exist, and therefore, for all practical purposes, it is illogical to believe as such.

The chances of leprechauns existing are very very low, but again I cannot disprove their existence. However, with such little evidence to support the belief in leprechauns, it would be unreasonable (stubborn, even) to believe in these tiny little Irishmen.

So no. I cannot disprove God just as much as you cannot disprove leprechauns, but just because something cannot be proven false does not mean it is necessary to believe it is true.

Answer 6

I need you to clarify. Please define(in your mind of course) what God is. You mentioned you are Christian. Not to digress to much but you have horrible grammar and seem to be unable to use caplocks properly.. Please keep that in mind as we continue to address your question. I apologize but I am unable to enter into a dialogue with a child. My expectations are you will articulate yourself in a clear and concise manner. Judging by your question I do not feel this will be possible for you. However, I will give you a second chance - just this once. Please define God. Remember if a God exists it must be a universal and static entity(being). Things which do not exist(non-existence) can not be defined. I assume your God is YHVH is this correct? If this is the case I can logically prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that YHVH does not currently exist and he has never existed. I look forward to your reply.

Answer 7

The burden of evidence is not on the ones making the negative claim. In this case it's "There is no God."

It is on YOU, the believer. YOU claim there is a god so YOU must show evidence that a god exists.

No evidence means that a god existing is highlyimprobable.

BTW: Science doesn't work with proving things. That's why theories and facts are always changing. It only deals with evidence.

Answer 8

For the sake of argument, i will think of you're some version of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. because of the fact no one has countless expertise, it particularly is impossible to coach something does not exist, has no longer existed, or won't exist at it sluggish, in any area of the universe or previous if this sort of place exists. Your god does not carry a monopoly on latest, relatively, in the hundreds of years because of the fact the god of Abraham grew to become into invented, no one has been able to coach info of his existence. This actuality on my own exhibits an fantastically severe threat that your god is imaginary. are you able to coach Zeus does not exist? are you able to coach Thor does not exist? How approximately Vishnu? Apollo? Odin? Zool? Do you have self assurance all those gods and those I did no longer point out are all sitting in the god room, offended because of the fact no one believes they exist? i'm able to in user-friendly terms coach that the seen your god is a logical impossibility. Your god is defined as being all-understanding, all-loving, and all-useful. And yet if we are responsible of the hassle-free theory crime of disbelief, we are banished to an eternity of suffering in hell. So your all-loving, all-understanding, all-useful god created me, understanding finished nicely ahead that i does not have self assurance, did no longer do one rattling difficulty to coach his existence (he knows precisely what might make me have self assurance because of the fact he's all-understanding) and loves me lots that he created a place like hell in user-friendly terms for me and persons like me. ok. So there, i've got used your faith to coach that your god isn't loving, thoroughly ignorant, and thoroughly powerless. Oddly adequate, those are an analogous characteristics possessed by technique of something that doesn't exist.

Answer 9

Simple. Tell me how you disprove every other god of the world exists except yours, and I will apply those rules of logic to your god.

Answer 10

**"Please Patiently Read This. Thanks."**

Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of a God that gives him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a God gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular God because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this supports the Buddha's teaching that the God-idea is a response to fear and frustration. The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.

*The second reason Buddhists do not believe in a Creator-God is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have God's words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand God's nature, that their God exists and that the Gods of other religions do not. Some claim that God is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their God but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another God. For centuries, men have prayed to God for protection from war, from natural calamities and disease. Yet till today, these prayers remain unanswered. This is not surprising. Even less surprising is that so many different religions having spent so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their God there remains no real, substantial or irrefutable evidence.*

The third reason the Buddhists do not believe in a Creator-God is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a God is necessary in order to explain the origin on the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the God-idea. Some claim that belief in God is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so. There are millions of atheists and free-thinkers, not to mention many Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a God. Some claim that belief in God's power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves. Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps, enormous odds and difficulties, through their own inner resources, through their own efforts and without belief in a God. Some claim that God is necessary in order to give man salvation. But this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and there is no reason nor any other reasonable basis to accept such a concept. Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding. He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart and encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through reasoning and logic.

But so many people believe in some form of a Creator God, so it must be true.

Not so ! There was a time when everyone believed that the world was flat, but they were all wrong. The number of people who believe in an idea is no measure of the truth or falsehood of that idea. The only way we can tell whether an idea is true or not is by looking at the facts and examining the evidence. If people continue to believe in God, they do so through faith, and faith is simply holding on to a belief when reason, logic and the evidence says otherwise.