Atheists: so you are asking me to....?

Question

hey dears

i asked you before to prove that there is no god and that the life have been created by evolutions like you believe!..

will a lot of atheists asked me to prove that there is a god
who i believe that he's the true god for all the creatures (Allah)

and other atheists answered and said that we can't prove that there is no god JUST LIKE you can't prove that there is a one .....!

will thats not true cause we have a lot of proofs that prove that there is a god....

for more details..read this.:
http://www.islamicedfoundation.com/proof.htm

please do not answer the question untill you read the proof!
other thatn ... don't bother your self to write a hate and rude answer like usual!

and peace
anno

Answer 1

Yes! If the Koran is used as proof as well as the Bible, I can finally use Green Eggs and Ham to explain metaphysics now!


Thanks!

Btw, Zero Cool, I used that kind of argument once, very successful

Answer 2

Sorry, but it is logically IMPOSSIBLE to disprove a negative. That is why, logically, the onus is on the proponent of positive idea (there IS a god) to offer proof. It really isn't my job as a skeptic to disprove your god. It is your job to prove it to me. So far, I am still waiting.

The more fantastic the idea, the higher the standards of proof that will be needed. A thought experiment is not proof. As Carl Sagan put it, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. What could be more fantastic and extraordinary than a supernatural creature who transcends all time and space, who is now and ever was, who created the Universe with a thought. Omnipotent, and omniscient

Yet, is not powerful enough to convince me it exists.

If the skeptics,by your logic, are responsible for DISPROVING your god, then where do we draw the line.? Do I really have to waste my time disproving every crazy idea that anyone comes up with ? I must accept your beliefs simply because nobody can disprove it? Sorry, the world of science doesn't work that way.

I have an invisible pink unicorn living in my garage. Prove I don't.

There is a ceramic teapot orbiting the Sun between Earth and Mars. Prove there isn't.

Leprachauns have a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Prove that isn't true.

etc
etc

Islam was once the protector of science and reason, they preserved the knowledge of the Greeks during the dark ages. Islam is stuck in the 12th century however. It hasn't accomplished anything useful in 1000 years.

Answer 3

Sorry, not one of the "proofs" on that page is any kind of proof of god. It's just more superstitious nonsense pretending to be logical when it's not.

That life on this planet arose naturally and through evolution by natural selection has evolved and diversified is adequately proven. There is over 150 years of evidence showing that is so, and *no* evidence against it. I can't fit 150 years of scholarly research, experiments, and observations in my answer -- so you're going to have to go do the work to learn yourself.

You can't prove a negative -- so I can't prove there is no god. I can, however, very confidently assert that the odds of there being a god as define by either Islam or christianity are approximately 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 -- based on a rational evaluation of the evidence. In other words, the possibility of such a god existing is so small as to be safely ignored...which I and many others do.

If you want to prove there's a god, provide EVIDENCE -- not illogical manipulations of existing "holy" books that make no sense.
Go look up the words "evidence" and "proof" in a dictionary.
Peace.

Answer 4

I went to the site and read it. I have to say the same I do in the case of Christianity. How true is a belief that is solely based on Human Words. Whether God inspired or not the hand and the images are of man. I do believe there is wisdom to be found in scriptures of all kinds but more profound thought does that. Now I have a question... If there is a God so perfectly omnipotent, so omniscient, and so omnipresent why would God use our own human words to prove his existence? Shouldn't he have written his own story in the world around us? I believe that Truth has left it's mark on the world and in the universe but people are so busy trying to decipher the images and ideas of other people and stake their lives on it.. People are willing to go to war over these images and ideas. People seem to rather believe second-hand through man's words than actually experiencing first hand the true existence. Even quantum physicists say that human words can't even begin to fathom the extent of what we have learned about the universe and everything we know to this point about existence. Yet, a few articulate individuals over 1,000 years ago, when man still thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth, are beheld as prophets who unlocked the mysteries of the universe and its creation.

When it comes to reality, words are like sand. They can be moved around and molded any which way one desires or feels they should be. But when the water comes, it all washes away only to reveal false human images.

Answer 5

How did I know you were a muslim before I read the word Allah. I could just tell from the composition of your question.

Anyways...look, there's no use trying to prove something to a group of people that don't believe what you do. Athiests only believe in evidence, evidence cannot be disputed. This poetry/philosophy of words you try to pose as some kind of evidence is all hear say. Someone that is muslim like you wrote that and they only believe what they wrote. This is not proof that Allah exists, athiests need tangible evidence, these are words on a web page.The same as the quran , it's a book with things people wrote for other people to believe. Just go on believing what you believe, and stop trying to sell your religion and cultural upbringing to people that are smart enough to think with logic and reasoning.

Answer 6

this question/ response = proof of the fact that a large majority of christians are just too arrogant to accept the evidence against god that is right there in front of them.

The response you got before was based on the fact that you were asking us to prove a negative, which can't be done. There is always the possibility of any negative, no matter how minute it is. For example can I prove that pink elephants do not live on the moon? I can't. It's your religion, your God, and your responsibility to provide the proof.

Answer 7

how about non biased scientific proof that can be understood by the layman. Any moron can see that if you have one walnut and you are given another, you have two walnuts. The truth (and proof) is plain and clear. Religious "proof" always has an element of assumption. I can say definitively that there is no verifiable proof the Allah or any other god does exist or has ever existed. The human races belief in godly makers is the cancerous remains of ancient ignorance and population control.

Answer 8

I read the piece. It is nonsense, and proves nothing. Anyone can write a paper that claims that it is the word of god, but that does not make it so. Since the Qur'an has errors, it cannot be the word of god. Having disposed of that, is there any tangible evidence that god either exists, or does not? No: there is no evidence to either support or refute any theory of god, and it provably follows that any such theory is useless: it cannot have any consequences in the real world.

Answer 9

Not even the simplest bacterium could just exist fully formed from nothing, from nowhere, with no origin of any kind. The complexity, the organisation, the structures and functions cannot just exist for no reason. Something had to be responsible for putting all that together. I seriously doubt that there is a single mentally competent adult on the planet who would disagree with this.

And yet, people somehow manage to convince themselves that something infinitely more remarkable than a bacterium - an intelligent entity capable of designing and creating an entire universe - does just exist from nothing, from nowhere, with no origin of any kind, nothing responsible for its existence. How do these people manage to maintain such a bizarre and patently false belief? It's very perplexing. Clearly they haven't thought things through. When you think about it sensibly, it's obvious that an intelligent creator simply cannot exist. It took 14 billion years or so for the universe to produce human beings, the only example of true intelligence in the known universe. To say that something vastly more intelligent than us could exist as if by magic, without a natural process to create it, and a material universe for it to arise in, is simply barmy.

Answer 10

there's no proof on that site, just some passages from the quran saying that there's a god, it's like quoting "The Cat in the Hat" to prove that there's an actual 6ft cat walking around with thing 1 and thing 2

Answer 11

Your "proof" is a series of statements that a human wrote down. They claim to be from god and they claim that various things are the work of god. Both claims are unsupported.

Do you believe, as the second paragraph of the proof declares, that god is responsible for every raindrop shed? It makes sense for a primitive desert culture but we now know a bit more about meteorology.