why do athiests dispute the evidence of god?

Question

their is much that points towards god but i will focus on the main elements.
evolution - trace evolution back to its origions and the first living organism evolved from non-living organisms this points towards a spark of intervention.
the exspansion of the universe- evidence of on going creation.
the big bang theory(ok so it hasnt been proven yet but if you accept it) this would suggest that at one point their was no universe so an intervention must have taken place. god is a possible explanation of this.
the fact evolution pays such a close resmblance to the sikh view of creation is so similar to creation it would be an incredably lucky guess without intervention.
the laws of the universe working together so well.-its possible yes but not as likely as a plan in action.
do these things prove god exists? of course not but they are evidence which can lead to a good hypothesis.
it would be a bad use of knowledge indeed to rule out something which can not be proved.

if you are going to dispute what i have said dont do it by refering to some tired old book because my beliefs are not based on one.

fearophob their is no reason why i cant believe in both god and evolution

dave p you may be right but perhaps god is from one of those multiple universes

rosbif no im not a christian i dont have a religion

m i never said god loves people i dont know what his opinion of people is

Answer 1

What "evidence"?

Answer 2

a. evolution - trace evolution back to its origions and the first living organism evolved from non-living organisms this points towards a spark of intervention.

All this means if that we don't yet know how life arose originally. There are naturalistic hypotheses for this that could be equally true. I am not jumping on any one of the hypotheses as "the one" but I do lean toward a naturalistic explanation being as likely or more likely than a supernatural being did it or that aliens seeded life on earth, both the latter seem about equally unlikely in my book.

b. the exspansion of the universe- evidence of on going creation.

How does the expansion of the universe indicate on going creation?

c. the big bang theory(ok so it hasnt been proven yet but if you accept it) this would suggest that at one point their was no universe so an intervention must have taken place. god is a possible explanation of this.

This could have been a simple physical reaction, like when new stars are born. We understand the completely natural explanations for that. Again this argument seems to fall back on the God in the gaps idea, what we don't yet know must be caused by God. In my mind, not necessarily.

d. the fact evolution pays such a close resmblance to the sikh view of creation is so similar to creation it would be an incredably lucky guess without intervention.

I am not familar with the Sikh creation story. It sounds interesting and I will check it out. All religions have creation stories though that they feel can be made to fit how the world works.

e. the laws of the universe working together so well.-its possible yes but not as likely as a plan in action.

Misconception due to anthromorphic view of the universe. Any way the universe works is natural, it only seems designed to us because it is the universe we are adapted to and live in.



f. do these things prove god exists? of course not but they are evidence which can lead to a good hypothesis.

Here we more or less agree. These things don't prove God. God is one hypothesis. Not more likely than the naturalistic ones, to me slightly less because the existence of Deity capable of creating the universe and life is itself an extreme improbability and tremendously complex. God is not proven nor will likely ever be proven nor disproven. To me it is an unlikely scenerio.

Answer 3

Why would a God, that loves the people that he (can I say he?) made, allow so much destruction to occur? Why would he allow the development of nuclear weapons? Why would millions of seemingly innocent people be killed or badly injured in freak natural disasters such as Tsunami's?

If there was a God, that created the universe, and God is perfect, why does the world have imperfections such as Siamese twins, DNA mutation and inherited disease? The world and its design have flaws, such as fault lines (San Andreas).

The "ongoing creation," which you talk about is one piece of proof for the big bang. The bang would make things move away from each other, thus expanding the universe.

I am currently an agnostic, that is why my answer is questions, I want them answered too. Surely the number of points that I have written off the top of my head can make you appreciate why atheists dispute the evidence of God.

Answer 4

In my experience, atheists dispute the evidence of God because the main source of knowledge about Him is riddled with holes and frankly just doesn't make sense. It tends to be a good history book, but its flaws are plenty and it says itself that every word is true and correct thus proof of an infallible God. That's simply not so. Contradictions abound in a book that touts itself divinely inspired. Using this and bringing in your theory above, it is not said in the Bible that God produced the Big Bang, sparked the evolution of animals or is actively expanding anything. It states that God created Heaven and Earth in 6 days and all was as it is now. It also states that after giving his son for our sins, he'll be taking a "back seat" role in humanity, so to speak. Therefore, these instances are used more as proof that the Bible, and God, are works of fiction.

Now as you may have guessed, I am not a Christian, if my views matter when you consider whether this answer makes sense to you. Although, I do believe in a divine spirit and that we are here living for a purpose. I believe that because it is simply what I feel, truly feel in my soul. Atheists do not have that feeling or do have a feeling pronouncing God's absence. Often, you will find that they are not true atheists wherein they do not believe in God, but rather have grown to hate him due to life experiences. People fueled by hatred cannot be swayed. But even if they chose not to believe, it does not seem difficult for me to fathom how they made that deduction. God's book has too many flaws and was written by men, who are fallible and in many cases manipulative and deceitful. Some people refuse to be led by any shepherd, mythical, spiritual or otherwise.

Answer 5

Not even the simplest bacterium could just exist fully formed from nothing, from nowhere, with no origin of any kind. The complexity, the organisation, the structures and functions cannot just exist for no reason. Something had to be responsible for putting all that together. I seriously doubt that there is a single mentally competent adult on the planet who would disagree with this.

And yet, people somehow manage to convince themselves that something infinitely more remarkable than a bacterium - an intelligent entity capable of designing and creating an entire universe - does just exist from nothing, from nowhere, with no origin of any kind, nothing responsible for its existence. How do these people manage to maintain such a bizarre and patently false belief? It's very perplexing. Clearly they haven't thought things through. When you think about it sensibly, it's obvious that an intelligent creator simply cannot exist. It took 14 billion years or so for the universe to produce human beings, the only example of true intelligence in the known universe. To say that something vastly more intelligent than us could exist as if by magic, without a natural process to create it, and a material universe for it to arise in, is simply barmy.

Answer 6

The fact the mechanics are not known at present of what you reference are not signs of a super entity. Now the question for you is whether the signs of a super entity you reference constitute proof of the entity YOU believe in.

Since the literal "truths" of the bible can be established as being false, evidence indicates much of the bible has been plagiarized from other cultures, many events make no sense, never took place or are completely illogical, why aren't you looking into a more plausible reasoned explanation.

Answer 7

Let's assume that all this is true. It says nothing about Jesus or the God of the Old Testament or Allah or anything. SO WHAT if a Magical Being created the universe 13 billion of years ago? Because there's absolutely no evidence that he's still around or that the Bible or Koran are anything but the made up myths of primitive men. Believing in a Creator who sparked evolution is as good as Atheism. Why even bother?

Answer 8

I simply believe in something that has some proof rather than something with no reliable proof at all and is entirly based on the supernatural. I think the void had always existed and life may have also been around forever surviving everything thrown at it(my opinion). More logical than life being created meta-physically out of nothing.
Based on your last sentence, wouldnt it also be bad to leave out big foot, aliens, chupacabras, vampires and other things considered to be superstitious?

Answer 9

The evidence for and/or against god (a supernatural creator) is merely circumstantial. Atheists point to a "lack of evidence" when denying the existence of god and then adhere vehemently to scientific "proof" which is just as circumstantial. The poster points out the necessity for the causality of the universe -- whatever force or being was that cause must necessarily be labeled "god." To deny the causality of the universe is to deny the fundamental prinicples of science (ie cause and effect.) God being outside the confines of this universe has no need of causation, so the question of "who created god?" is moot.

Answer 10

Why can't people just accept that we will never know the means in which this universe, solar system, planet, and humanity came to be. I am fine with not knowing. I don't need a made up story to fill in those area of history we will never be able to know.

This is one of the main issues that keeps all religions in action. This, and not being able to accept that when you die, that is it, you cease to exist, is what will always allow religious fires to keep burning.

Answer 11

Because there is no evidence, but religious types say there is but don't point at any real evidence. They just dispute evidence of evolution and make poor arguements against it. Basically because if they studied it, they would realize they were wrong. Remember, religion argued against the Earth revolving around the Sun and jailed and tortured people over it. Today, it seems like they never learned.