Can I just ask one question about the reasoning some people are against "gay marraige"?

Question

I just wanna see if I understand your reasoning, if you are against gay marriage,

you state its because this would change the definition of marriage, which traditionally has been between a man and a woman, as defined by the Bible. Is that true?

So here is my question(s), # 1 - In the United States of America, what does the First Amendment state about religion, is there something in there about Congress shall not prohibit the (blank) (blank)? # 2 - Are there some religions who promote and expect that their members will have plural marriage, in fact, is plural marriage something that occurred in the Old Testement of the Bible and was promoted or encouraged? # 4 - Didn't that King Solomon have 700+ wives, and still held the favor of God (understand he lost it cause of lust). # 5 - Would it be that bad for society to actually change the definition of marriage, since society has had changes to it before with divorce becoming more common place?

Thanks for your time.

Sorry, I spelled marriage wrong. Will Jesus forgive me?

Answer 1

I don't think you really care about an answer, you just like the controversy these kind of questions invoke. Well, we do to or we wouldn't respond..
Besides, just think of how much money gays are saving. They don't have to pay all those high priced attorneys for the divorce.

Answer 2

you state its because this would change the definition of marriage, which traditionally has been between a man and a woman, as defined by the Bible. Is that true?

Yeah.

# 1 - In the United States of America, what does the First Amendment state about religion, is there something in there about Congress shall not prohibit the (blank) (blank)?

something like 'forcing of religion'...Just because America's laws usually coincide with Christian religion doesn't mean they are directly affiliated

# 2 - Are there some religions who promote and expect that their members will have plural marriage, in fact, is plural marriage something that occurred in the Old Testement of the Bible and was promoted or encouraged?

That's Solomon's business. The basis of "man + woman = marraige" is from Jesus' own words.

# 5 - Would it be that bad for society to actually change the definition of marriage, since society has had changes to it before with divorce becoming more common place?

Yes. It would. And the change of divorce has been bad too. You can read Jesus' words on marraige in... Matt 5:31..

Answer 3

I can't help but break into fits of hysterical laughter when people use the argument that if gays are allowed to marry then it will absolutely lead to marrying your dog or your sheep.

What thought process can lead to something so asinine as to be considered reality?!

I remember once on a reality game show where a devout christian woman announced that she knew for sure that non-christians had sex with snakes. She could not be moved from this idea.

I say what is the harm in allowing love to bloom. How terrible is this love thing that we have to quash it flat?! How does gay marriage in any way affect the quality of the hetero lifestyle? IT DOESN'T!

And how repulsively GROSS is it that the bible supports the procreation of the species through father/daughter incest???????????????? So many christians only know the story up to the pillar of salt "ending" and never read the truly foul ending of that story.

Edit: BTW Nature does allow for homosexuality in most species - open a book - watch the animal planet - learn the real truths of the world not some fairy tales created by misogenist rabbis of days long gone.

Answer 4

As for King Solomon having more than 700 wives, I'm really not sure why God blessed that. I think it's because He found favor with Solomon. Still, Solomon was human and he did sin, despite his favor with God. In those days, it was not a sin to have multiple wives. Concubines on the other hand was another story and was considered adultery/fornication - and a sin. I don't know how any man can handle that many women, and I AM a woman!

As for why I don't agree with gay marriage? Well, the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. It also says that homosexuality is a sin, along with adultery, fornication and a host of other sins that we humans are guilty of. God made us as unique individuals, and He made EACH of us as imperfect beings with our own unique personalities and quirks. He expects us to take what we have been given in our lives and use those things for our own good and to the glory of God. Some of us are born with a predisposition to drinking alcohol because there is something in our genes that gives us a weaker ability to withstand the temptation to drink once we have had a drink. That doesn't mean that because we are born with that tendency that it is okay to get drunk. The Bible says "be not drunk with wine". Still others of us are born with a quicker temper. Just because we have the tendency to get angrier quicker and more severely, doesn't mean it's okay to lose our temper and hurt others as a result. I don't believe that people are born gay. Sorry folks, but I don't. I will get thumbs down for that statement, but I don't care. See, God would not call something SIN that He made us with. God doesn't call retarded folks sinners because they were MADE that way and can't help it. It may be true that gay people are born with a tendency to feel attracted to someone of the same sex. That would be like any of us who are born with a tendency to anything that the Bible says we shouldn't do. God doesn't condemn us for being tempted. He doesn't condemn us for having those thoughts and feelings. He does however call it sin when we ACT upon those temptations, thoughts and feelings that He says are wrong. The Bible says it is wrong to be a homosexual. Read the Bible - it's in there. That's why I don't believe in gay marriage. I do however, believe in families. I believe that if people are living together as a family, then I think they should be able to have the same rights to family tax breaks and medical coverage as anyone else who lives as a family. There are civil union rules in place for that. I have no personal objection to that. But marriage? Man and woman.

Answer 5

Show us in the bible where it was o.k. for two men to get married.
You won't find it; instead you will find it strictly prohibited.

And using the freedom of religion as an excuse is lame. Where would the line be drawn? Following your logic, I could demand the right to marry a goat because "it's my religion" or "my religion says I can have sex with an eight year old."

It's bad for society because, as common sense would dictate, homosexuality goes against nature. Just like neighborhoods where drugs or gangs are a problem, so are areas where there is a concentration of gay/lesbian people. It's not the kind of environment to raise children.

Give us your reason why God is in error about homosexuals and how they would provide a stable environment.

Answer 6

I read your other question too...I would like to answer.
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I believe marriage, between a man and woman, is ordained of God and that it is holy, wonderful and can be eternal.
That said, this is a really hard subject. It's like "separation of church and state"... Because the idea of "gay" is such a question of morality for so many people, it's hard for a person to be in support of something they view as sin or "not right". I personally believe that homosexual acts/thoughts/tendancies are against God's will, that it is a temptation that can be overcome and also an act that can be repented of. I don't think "gay" people are awful or horrible or anything, they are God's children just like me and I am not their judge. Do I agree with their acts? No. Do I think they have the right to their own choices? Yes.
It's sort of contradicting because on the one hand though I do not agree with their choices I still believe they have their agency and that should not be taken away... so even though I believe they have the right to choose for themselves, I would never vote "for" gay marriage to be legal because I do not believe it is right. I am sure there are wonderful people who are great parents that are gay and not gay, as well as not so wonderful on both sides. I don't think it is an issue of who is or who isn't a good parent or role model or "citizen"... it all comes down to the view or morality.
It's quite a conflict and I am glad I don't have to be the one to sort it all out.

Answer 7

The upshot of the completed logical argument hostile to it has to do with the classic structure of the family members, and the excuses for it. It also has to do with employer sponsored well being insurance, and the reasonings in the back of that. contained in the 'classic' family members, the guy worked, the female bore the youngsters & ran the family members. His insurance then lined the nonworking better 1/2 & babies. There are, obviously, many differences in this contained in the regularly happening global, yet that is what the variety is in line with. In a gay courting, there won't be able to be any babies produced, hence the classic nuclear family members is a moot aspect. it truly is all about the youngsters; there truly isn't the different rationalization for marriage to take position. truly some the different legal rights & privileges could properly be had by legal papers of different kinds. except, obviously, immigration 'line-leaping' by marriage, and some others. (How quickly will mail-order boy-brides from Thailand be accessible, i'm questioning? it truly is inevitable. And my marital status only may be up for sale for a trifling seven figures for any overseas bluebloods that desire a lil' 'strengthen' of their eco-friendly card status! i visit pretend to love musicals with the finest of them.) in my opinion, i do not care. Marriage has been just about lifeless contained in the U. S. because the 70's.. the toddler boomers killed it with their self-serving social redesigning. i look at it this type.. enable them get married all they prefer to; each and each of the more suitable organization for wedding ceremony planners, caterers, and shortly; divorce attorneys in this slumping economic equipment.

Answer 8

Are people really that ignorant to think that if gay marriage is allowed then people will be allowed to marry animals? Come on! That's just a ridiculous justification for their self-righteous, judgmental, holier-than-thou attitudes. I say, let gays marry. What harm will it do to me? And then some people argue that it will take away from the benefits received by traditionally married couples. So? Are straight people some how more worthy, some how more deserving of things than homosexuals?

Ha! And these Christians say not to be judgemental. By the way, you listed Bible references. Don't you know that book is chalk full of contradictions!

Answer 9

There are other Old Testament guys who participated in polygamy-that guy who married Rachel & Leah-he also had two concubines. Abraham married his half-sister then got her hand-maid knocked up.
Slavery was taught as a normal thing in the OT and Jesus even told stories about it in his parables. Even though God condemns homosexuality in the OT, Jesus never mentions it.Same person?-hmmm
God created Hell for those he loves?
I don't think Christians truly understand what makes a marriage or what Jesus teaches. I think they're against gay marriage b/c they have issues they don't want to confront :-)

Answer 10

Well, what is really interesting is that gay people don't want to be married in the spiritual sense of the word(for the most part). The was the legal union, and the rights as a spouse/ married couple enjoys in the eyes of the government. Most don't even care if any sort of church ackowledges their union.

But, yes, christian practices and customs have be "adapting" to the times since its inception. I know this will be an unpopular statement, but I have to give it to religions who still keep their women in subserviant roles. Not because they do that, but because they are sticking to their guns even though it is not popular in these modern times. They are following their original doctrine as closely as possible. They are not caving in the face of political correctness and social changes in the world.

Again, I don't want women in subservient roles, but have to admire a group of people who sticks to their beliefs no matter what grief it may bring them. I feel their pain. Try being an atheist in small town Texas. You will know what I mean.

Answer 11

Not everyone hates the concept of gay marriage for religious reasons; I'm an athiest and I find their arguments foolish. You can give people the rights they want, but they don't want just the rights.

They are pushing to be accepted as normal, and when homosexuality is still undefined as either choice or inheritance, opinions of whether or not homosexuality is right is a personal issue.

The concept of marriage was, initially, a religious union between two persons. Than the government stepped in and said that they will marry people, regardless of faith, in terms of legality. Its like the Government trying to walk in on some christian mass and saying that minors can't drink that wine, that it needs to be cool-aid or the will start filing charges.

If homosexuals want to prance around infront of everyone saying that their are legitimized by the government, there will always be people in the crowd booing.