Just need someone to explain this part of the bible to me??

Question

the part in the old testament, with the incest between the father and his two daughters, (Genesis 19:33-35) how does this reconcile with christian teachings, becoz basically it's supporting or at least condoning incest.
i mean this as no disrespect, just a healthy debate so feel free to answer fully

Answer 1

First off, incest is not condoned by God. See Lev. 18:6-17 where it is spelled out in detail.

Second, the fact that they sought to get their father intoxicated suggests that they realized he would never have consented to having sexual relations with them in a sober state. But under the circumstances, they felt that this was the only way to prevent the extinction of Lot’s family. They were aliens in the land and there was no one of their kindred with whom they could enter into marriage and thus preserve the family line. It should also be remembered that Lot’s daughters had resided among the morally debased inhabitants of Sodom. In view of these factors, it would not have been difficult for them to justify their course of action in their own minds. Why, then, does the account appear in the Scriptures?

It is there for a purpose, revealing the relationship of the Moabites and Ammonites to the descendants of Abraham who became known as Israelites. Lot being a nephew of Abraham, the Israelites were related to the Moabites and Ammonites, who descended from the two sons that Lot produced by means of his daughters. (Gen. 11:27) Later this fleshly relationship came to govern Israel’s actions in dealing with the Moabites and Ammonites. For example, in their taking over the land east of the Jordan River, the Israelites, under divine orders, were careful not to trespass on the landholdings of the Ammonites and Moabites.—Deut. 2:9, 18, 19, 37.

Is any sincere reader of the Bible left in doubt as to the conclusion that is to be drawn from this account concerning Lot and his daughters? Is he made to feel that such conduct is, perhaps, approved by God?

It is true that in Genesis chapter 19 the historical facts are conveyed without any comment respecting God’s approval or disapproval of Lot’s twice committing incest in an intoxicated state. But in later portions of the Bible record, God’s condemnation of drunkenness is clearly stated again and again. (Prov. 20:1; 23:20, 21, 29-35; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10) Likewise, in his Law to Israel, God later made clear his prohibition of incest, saying: “You people must not come near, any man of you, to any close fleshly relative of his to lay bare nakedness. . . . The nakedness of your father and the nakedness of your mother you must not lay bare.” (the Leviticus passage cited above) The penalty for violating the law on incest was death. (Lev. 18:29) While Lot and his daughters were not under the Law, they were, nevertheless, aware of the impropriety of having relations with their own father, as shown by the fact that they first got him intoxicated.

Why, then, is Lot called a “righteous man,” at 2 Peter 2:8? Not because God approved of his getting drunk, nor because God approved of incest. God did not approve such conduct. But it should be noted that there is nothing in the record to indicate that Lot was a habitual drunkard, nor was he habitually involved in acts of incest. His reputation was that of a “righteous man,” and this reputation he had with God, who examines the heart. Lot deplored the “lawless deeds” of the people of Sodom. And, evidently, for the Examiner of hearts to view him as righteous, Lot must also have grieved over the wrong conduct in which he himself got involved.

The inclusion of the information about Lot and his daughters in the Scriptural record should really help us to appreciate that the Bible is a book of truth. Even when persons who were known as God’s servants became involved in improper acts, the Bible does not conceal this. However, at all times such things are recounted, not to entertain or to stimulate a desire to indulge in immoral conduct, but to provide a background for understanding other events.

Answer 2

It is not a story that condones incest. Jobs daughters thought the whole world was ending. They believed at the time that they were the only survivors, and the only way they would have children was to sleep with their father, whom they thought was the only surviving male. They gave him wine to intoxicate him so that he would comply. This is a story of what happened. The people in the Bible were human and sinned also. The Bible points that out. A lot of the stories in the Bible are there to show you what not to do.

Answer 3

I havent read that part of the bible(at least not recently) so i cant really comment fully.
But i would presume it is from a time before many of the laws were handed down, ie anything that prohibits such behaviour. But also it would be from when there were so few people in that area that there would have been little choice but breeding with your relatives.
As for the discussion I think it's well shown that incest is uncommon in christian countries, and that clearly this behavious is wrong , and has been considered such for thousands of years. I would presume that it is unlawful in christanity as it is in islam.

Answer 4

This is misunderstanding. The central idea of the religion is based on so called tree of life. In some explanation there are two entities called also mother and father (very similar to JI Jing and TAO (DAO). From this two older son and older daughter were born. Then the middle son and daughter were born. You should understand that when you have mother, father, older son and older daughter the next generation can be born only from mother and older son, father and older sister or between older sister and older brother. This idea can not be applied to our situation. because from one came two. From two another two and becomes 4. From this another 4 and they become 8 and then many.
Please, study in depth old scriptures (TAOism, tree of life, tree of good and bad, etc....) Try to really understand what the message is.

Answer 5

It doesn't say that God is pleased with the behavior. This part of the Bible is just a record of what took place. Remember if you read something in the Bible that is not congruent with who God is then there must be another reason that it was included

Answer 6

You are talking about Lot being used by his daughters.

The Bible recounts various things that happened so we can learn from them. Not everything that happens is good, but, everything that happens can be learned from.

So what lesson do we learn from the story of Lot?

Lot put his faith in God and was saved from Sodom. He was able to save his daughters who listened to him in faith, but, not his wife who trusted in her own understanding.

Once the destruction was complete the daughters did not place their trust in their father, they trusted their own understanding.

This is the story of people. Some people are faithful. Some are not and some lose faith along the way.

Learn from that and you don't have to make the mistake yourself.

Answer 7

Such a thing to exist in the Bible is an atrocity.

To think that God would actually speak like this is beyond me.

This story serves no purpose beside confusing people like yourself about what God truly condones.

If God mentiones a story, He does so to prove a point, not just merely stating something.

If this is truly the word of God, the real question is, why did he mention it? what message was He trying to give us?

Answer 8

All of the players in Genesis are flawed. No exceptions. This wasn't Lot's doing. The daughters got their father drunk and took advantage of him. I'd call it icky, but I wouldn't call it a sin b/c there were no rules from God yet. They came later.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

I am really unsure. I should research.