Shulchan Aruch, except for Chosen Mishpat. The only thing is I hate irreligious Jews, which is fine because the Beis Yosef says it's a mitzvah to hate them and obstruct them in every way, so would I be allowed to convert to Judaism?
2007-03-06
10:33:42
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Guess it escaped David the King too, huh, "Oh how I hate those who hate You," or Rashi, when he commented on the verse "Love your fellow as yourself," or the Beis Yosef. you don't even know your own religion stupid Jews, and the truth is you don;t like it because it gets in the way of your modern ideas. That's why I hate Jews, because you hate yourselves with sucha loathing you've emulated the most discusting parts of every other nation on earth to escape keeping your own religion. I wouldn;t convert for 1 million dollars because you are all disgusting.
2007-03-06
10:47:32 ·
update #1
SOrry, I realize you didn't understand that, "Hoo hoo hoo," and "oink, oink, oink."
That's so you can understand those of you who are monkeys and pigs.
2007-03-06
10:57:16 ·
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Not that all of you are, just a translation for the monkeys and pigs among the others.
2007-03-06
10:57:56 ·
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Suri ,
First, we shall overcome some day, to quote the black spiritual.
Second, you just outed yourself as a Messianic with regretable Hebrew grammar as well.
Yhoshua like Yhoshua HaNavi is spelled Yud Heh vav shin ayin.
That's the name.
Yeshu, like the founder of Christianity is Yud shin vav. Only J4J spells it with an ayin at the end, like you just did, which is nonsense. That is the name of a place in the Bible, not a proper name for a person. They do it so Jews won't immediately recognize who they are talking about, and because they like that the ayin looks like a fish in script.
Now I called a guy out for saying Yahshua, which is not ok and is infact, impossible. If he was trying to say Yhoshua, he either made a shva into a patah and left the vav silent (impossible) or he skipped the shva and pronounced the vav as a patah. ALso impossible.
Y'shua is also spelled with a shva, not a patah.
That name cannot be pronounced in any form with a broad 'A' sound.
2007-03-06
12:31:01 ·
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Oink oink. I was lieing. I don't want to convert. Though I have read the sfarim I mentioned. You self hating Jew.
2007-03-06
12:35:42 ·
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I just learned them to better impersonate a Jew. Being half ethiopian and capable of pronouncing a Peh, as well as being Jewish by Israeli law since my mother was converted by them (which BTW means I don't have to convert), I can take my teuda tzehut and get on any bus anywhere in Israel I want, with any bag I want, get off, dial a number, and watch 13 or 14 potential war criminals get mopped off the street lamps. How's that scratch you.
Instead I came to America to be a good AMerican.
Piss me off I might go back.
2007-03-06
12:40:05 ·
update #6
Imagine that. Boooom. Tzetkem L'shalom, Shpudim.
2007-03-06
12:43:46 ·
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Hi, Sammer. I always assume good faith when answering questions, and try to do so kindly and calmly. I am a Rabbi with the Neturei Karta movement. http//:www.nkusa.org I live in Palestine in Ramat Beit Shemesh
Anyways, your learning skills certainly would qualify you to convert if everything else were in order. Most gerei tzedek do not know either Loshon Hakodesh or Aramaic when they convert. There is also the matter of kabbalis mitvos, accepting the authority of the commandments. I realize your question was more hypothetical, but in real life, that would probably be something that would be worked on.
Given your background, as you've explained it here, you are already yisroel b'suffik, someone who may be required, according to Torah, to keap commandments anyway, depending on your mothers sincerity upon conversion, and the status of the Beis DIn that performed it.
I want to speak to you about your (probably justified) anger. I read other questions of yours, and more about your background. If you hated all Jews everywhere, nobody could blame you for that. I have been to Jenin, and in many ways it is comporable at the worst of times to some areas of Bergen Belsen. Thankfully there is not as much disease. I'm sure it hurts you when Jews from thousands of miles away defend the crimes committed against you, and the fact that you did not take a violent path is commendable. How many of us would have had the moral fortitude not to strike out. I applaud you for that.
It is important to realize that all Jews are not Zionists, and all Jews do not agree with the terrible crimes committed against you. In America you hear a lot of it, but that's because the Jews who oppose Zionism do not get involved in media like TV or internet, for the most part.
Now as to your halachah quoting, your quote from the Beis Yosef was correct to an extent. He goes on to say that this is only when those irreligious people are trying to take over the community and make rules for it, otherwise the halachah is to simply shun them and not have contact. Your lash out was also somewhat correct, I think. It is not uncommon for people of any faith to ignore many aspects of their faith in order to be emotionally comfortable with it. This is a great struggle in life. I hope you always set your emotions aside in order to serve G-d with genuine submission to his entire will, and we should all do the same. In Yiddishkeit we express this in Friday night prayers with the request, "v'tahor libeinee, lavdiku b'emis," which means, "Purify our hearts to serve you in truth."
Speaking to the controversy over pronunciation, you were, in fact, correct. The young woman who spoke above me is most likely not a messianic, though. It is more likely she simply didn't read what you wrote carefully.
I would also envourage her to rethink her strategies in human interactions. If someone is emotionally wounded by a traumatic childhood inflicted on them by evil people, and has expressed enough rage to strike out violently perhaps against people he believes responsable, it is usually unhelpful to continue to provoke them with insults. Gentle speach and a listening ear to uncover motives, and to find the good person in the cloud of indegnation is much better.
Hope that helps.
BTW, a person can easily go through Shas in 2 years if they are simply learning pshatim with Rashi. That's only 4 pages a day doing pshat.
2007-03-06 18:24:48
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Why wouldn't you be allowed to convert to Judaism? Hating irreligious Jews isn't what Judaism is about, but there is no law that says you can't convert if you do. It would be up to your rabbi--if he sees you don't have the right heart, he won't send you to the beit din. You better hope he doesn't see this question or you'll never set foot in his synagogue again, let alone a beit din, for obviously for all your knowledge, you have no idea of what Judaism really is. (And I'm a religious Jew! hah! Seems to me you're the only one here hating us.)
By the way I know you can't possibly speak Hebrew because you once called a person out on spelling out Yeshuah, you said his pronunciation of the name is impossible when it's spelled ×ש××¢
and his pronunciation was actually quite correct.
B'hatzlacha...
edit: hah! Check out my other posts, my other questions. Oh to suffer fools. Then see if I am messianic. Oh the disgust. But yet, I don't have to prove myself to you because you have just in your opening statements have proved yourself more ignorant than all the messianics put together. Yeshu's Hebrew name was what the guy had stated, as gentiles generally understand it. Most people have never heard of HaNasi, so his spelling was fine, and there was no reason for you to go off on a tangent about it. It was just you being a mean person. And it's impossible to cover Shas in two years. You continue to prove your ignorance. You know what? You are nothing more than Pesach cereal.
2007-03-06 19:03:54
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answered by LadySuri 7
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Why are you asking us? Wouldn't you need to contact a rabbi or something about joining? Somebody official in the religion would need to determine whether you're ready to convert.
But as far as your education...schooling isn't the same as conversion. Yes, you need to know certain things about Judaism by reading and study, but that doesn't mean you're religious, just a scholar. You can read what you like, but if it doesn't mean anything on a spiritual level, then you're not ready to convert.
Why would it be a mitzvah to hate anybody? Even if they're your enemy, you shouldn't obstruct them. That's just rude. You should be nice to them and leave them alone unless they personally attack you, and I wouldn't consider being irreligious a personal attack. Leave them alone.
2007-03-06 18:40:20
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answered by SlowClap 6
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Well your knowledge and training is completely useless to you.
First, you don't know how to spell "Aramaic", and second, all your intelligence still can't prevent you from hating others.
I would suggest you put down the books and learn what it is to be a human being. It seems that, after all, Judaism has escaped you.
2007-03-06 18:43:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow, I have no idea what you just said. I mean, I know most of it was English, but ... wow!
2007-03-06 18:37:37
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answered by Dino 4
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