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And please don't just say "he died so our sins are forgiven" or some crap - that doesn't explain anything.

I want to know the logic behind him dying to save us - how can his death help to absolve my sins when I wasn't even born yet?

2007-03-06 09:53:00 · 27 answers · asked by God Fears Me 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

27 answers

It's simple

God sacrificed himself to himself to appease himself for wrongs done to himself.

2007-03-06 09:57:51 · answer #1 · answered by KryptonOne 5 · 2 1

Sam Snead died for you, Lenny Bruce died for you. Well those don't have quite the same guilt impact. But think of all the sacrifices I made for you. (I am keeping it light)
Martyrdom has a very strong psychological impact.
Martyrdom also plays on the reciprocity functions. If I give you a gift you are morally obligated to give me something back(door to door salesmen with free gifts)
If you are trying to induce the mental breakdown to convert somebody into a cult Zombie you tend to use guilt, fear, shame etc. Once they are in the mental breakdown phase, trapped in their mind and condemned, then you give them your escape route. All they have to do is give up control over their own lives.

It makes no sense to a rational mind this Jesus dying for sins not yet committed thing.
However it makes total sense to an indoctrinator.

wow, look at all the cultists zombie answers. I hope you read and understand. They are not in control of their minds. their rational processes have been shut off. Any doubts are met by the "It must be Satan speaking defence," where normal sanity is rejected as a challenge to their "faith".

Can you see why they reject any thoughts about science, or history that would cause them to actually examine what they are believing. If they think for themselves then they end up in that guilt and fear place the indoctinators put them into during conversion. They are ruled by their internal terror.
Logic does not work on them.

2007-03-06 18:18:26 · answer #2 · answered by U-98 6 · 1 0

Well first of all God loved us so much that he gave his only son. FOR YOU! Being absolved especially before you were born was so that you would be forgiven and be able to be with God. other wise you would not be able to enter the kingdom of heaven. because you are not perfect and are a sinner and jesus cleared the way for us to be able to do that.
You see we are all sinners but not God has wiped our sins away with Jesus blood on the cross. (Have you ever read the bible? If you have I know it can be a bit confusing, and remember that a lot of the things in it are symbolic. Also do you really understand the love that Jesus Christ has for you?)
Because we have free will to believe and accept jesus we are more prone to sin but if we ask for forgiveness we are cleansed and are worthy enough to be with Christ.
hope this helps.

2007-03-06 18:08:53 · answer #3 · answered by Nay 2 · 0 1

I watched something on tv about that yesterday. When Adam and Eve sinned they seperated humans from God because God is Holy. So, everyone is born with a sinful nature. When jesus died on the cross he took the punishment of our sins for us. Ex; Say you got into trouble with law and went to court and they said you can either pay money or go to jail. You have no money, but someone comes in and pays the fine for you so you can go free. Make any sense?

2007-03-06 18:00:55 · answer #4 · answered by bookworm1885 2 · 1 2

A person is judged guilty when they sin (brake one of God's laws).

The penalty for sin is death.

The penalty must be paid.

The only way out for the sinner, is to get someone to take their place in death. But that person must be innocent.

All men have sinned and fallen short of keeping God's laws.

But God provided a substitute for us.

Jesus Christ God's Son.

He came and lived among us.
He lived a perfect life with out sinning.

Some people hated Jesus for being so good.
So they killed Him.
But while He was dying, Jesus took all of our sins on Himself.

Now we can have our sins forgiven us IF we accept Jesus' sacrifice and ask Him to be our Lord and Savior.

If we do not accept this free gift, then we send our selves to Hell by our own free will.

2007-03-06 18:09:12 · answer #5 · answered by tim 6 · 0 2

Because He isn't going to get on the cross again.
If you don't believe you are a sinner. Then you don't need a savior do you?
If you believe you are a sinner, then you do need a savior.
You can either pay for the sin yourself or accept what God said about Jesus.
You can't pay yourself so that leaves you the other alternative.
The third alternative, is that you are not a sinner, God is a fool and so is Jesus and you call them a liar.
Or there is no God.

Good luck with that!

2007-03-06 18:04:20 · answer #6 · answered by chris p 6 · 0 2

The bible explains it this way

Through one man (adam) sin came into the world
THrough one man (Jesus) we are forgiven for that sin.

Read the book of Romans for the exact wording and explanation.

There was and will not be a human born perfect and remain that way. God had to actually sacrifice a part of himself in order to bring us back into perfect communion with him as we had before the fall of Adam and Eve.

God sent a part of himself, his only begotten son, to live on this earth in a fleshly body, be tempted, but not sin. He remained perfect and therefore was the only one able to pay the penalty for our sin.

God demands atonement for sin, in the days before Jesus, people gave of their best as a sacrifice, best goat, dove, ram, etc. This was not the perfect sacrifice, so it needed to be done on an annual basis.

Jesus Christ was and is perfect, therefore we no longer need to make a blood atonement for our sins, Jesus Christ made it for us.

We only need to accept the fact that he did this for us, give ourselves to the one who paid the price for our sins, and yes, we have plenty on any one given day.

Once we have done this, we should feel compelled to read the word of God, pray about what we have read, fellowship with other believers and grow stronger and stronger while leaning on our savior.

2007-03-06 18:05:28 · answer #7 · answered by cindy 6 · 1 1

By the terms of God's covenant with the Jews (Old Testament), the High Priest slaughters a bull for the nation to atone for collective sin. Individuals present offerings for the same purpose. Jesus became the bull sacrificed for all of us. While in the Israeli case, bulls are slaughtered annually, and presumable regualrly to continually atone for sins. Jesus Christ is a one-time offering, available to be accessed for atonement.

We are all sinners not only because we commit offence, but by the very fact of our humanity we share in a collective guilt. Practically, we are all either practitioners or beneficiaries of one misdemeanor or injustice or another. God makes Jesus Christ a way out for those collective sins (by default) and the ones we commit ourselves.

2007-03-06 18:03:24 · answer #8 · answered by Elder 3 · 0 2

CS Lewish explained it really well.

God's intent was to turn the rule of law on its head because laws are unreliable as human guides. The real life-giving guides that we need are inspiration, hope, faith, compassion, maturity, education, etc.

So God allowed for the law to condemn an innocent man, thereby giving him the reason he needed to trash the whole system without being unfair to anyone, and replace it with a system of forgiveness. When the law itself becomes unreliable, even God's law, God, in all fairness, has to find a better way.

2007-03-06 17:57:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

it all started in the Garden of Eden when Adom and Eve realized they were unclothed. GOD killed and animal to make coverings for them. A blood sacriface is required to cover or blot out sin's stain. Before Christ man had to go before GOD continually to offer animal sacrifices for his many sins. When Christ shed HIS blood for mankind the need for animals was over because Jesus was GOD in the flesh, the perfect,one time sacrifice. I hope this helps ( but GOD does not fear you.)

2007-03-06 18:01:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The key word here is "Sacrifice". Jesus, according to Paul's Salvationism, was a scape-goat. He took on his believer's "sins" and then was slaughtered as a sacrifice to God. God, by definition, savors the sweat smell of blood and burning flesh, and thus forgives the sins of those who perform the sacrifice. (That's why Jesus is often referred to as "The Lamb of God" - it represents him being a sacrificial lamb). It's all very simple and not at all unique to Judaism and Christianity.

Read Frazer's "The Golden Bough" for more detail on sacrificing the god-man. Primitive religions have been doing it, both for real and in effigy, for thousands of years.

2007-03-06 17:57:03 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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